Smokers...

[metallpimp]

I get lots of flack for being a smoker.
I was trying to quit but I don't want to.
I enjoy it too much.
I used to say, that my body is my temple ad the things I smoke are the incense.
God put the tobacco plant here didn't he?
There's probably a reason why people smoke.
Maybe you only get cacer if you sin while you smoke?
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[catlady]

arrrgg I know how you feel my bfs mom is such an anoying bi*** when it comes to smoking. If I smoke it's no one elses business but my own. Now I want a cigerette.

[piperrocks]

i personally don't like smoking but its up to the person who is doing it at the end of the day

[SelfControl]

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i personally don't like smoking but its up to the person who is doing it at the end of the day

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i agree.

[p3fan_forever]

I totally agree with you.. I hate when people look at me funny because I am sitting there smoking, like the one time I was at a casino here in Vegas, and I was sitting there smoking a cigarette while I was waiting for my friend and this lady came and sat down by me and she turned to me and asked me not to smoke around her because she hates the smell of smoke and I was like look lady I was here first and if you don't like it there are plenty of other places to sit.. Where do poeple get off telling you not to smoke or to put out your cigarette when you were there first. Augh!!! I hate that

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[catlady]

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I totally agree with you.. I hate when people look at me funny because I am sitting there smoking, like the one time I was at a casino here in Vegas, and I was sitting there smoking a cigarette while I was waiting for my friend and this lady came and sat down by me and she turned to me and asked me not to smoke around her because she hates the smell of smoke and I was like look lady I was here first and if you don't like it there are plenty of other places to sit.. Where do poeple get off telling you not to smoke or to put out your cigarette when you were there first. Augh!!! I hate that

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arrg she had some friggin nerve!

[Steff]

i stopped smoking a few weeks ago /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Gemma_love_peace]

I'm not a big fan of smokers, but I put up with it. I wish my girl would stop, but she likes it, so there's nothing I can do other than quit moaning, lol.

[catlady]

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i stopped smoking a few weeks ago /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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good for you! Good luck with that. how is it working for u?

[verynsanedru]

i don't like it cuz it makes me nauseous and cough especially at a resteraunt when i'm trying to eat. but I don't tell people to stop and its not bad enough to where i wouldn't let a friend not smoke.

[Steff]

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i stopped smoking a few weeks ago /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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good for you! Good luck with that. how is it working for u?

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i thought it would be harder. it's quite easy...

[littlangel008]

I'm not a fan of smokers either..not that i care if they put their health "in danger" but because by smoking, they also polluate NON-smokers air and that's what i hate!
At least, you could be able to stop smoking in public places.

Here we have an ad that really makes you think about that.
The ad starts showing different rooms of a house like completely full of cigarettes and it goes "in her life, Mary smoked 10987 cigarettes in the kitchen, 12543 in the living room..." and it goes on for all the rooms and at the end you see this little girl and it says "it's alot...especially when you're 7"

So just one thing to you BAAAAAAAAD SMOKERS /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif: be careful where you smoke and who with!

[Hollieangel]

I think its peoples personal choice as to whether or not they do it. I do prefer to sit in "non-smoking" areas of resturants etc, but obviously some places it cannot be avoided, such as a pub /images/graemlins/wink.gif lol

I dont think its fair for Governments - whichever ones decide to do it - to put a ban on smoking. Ive heard a reason from my own country was that a Pregnant woman was at a pub and so it makes it easier for her to smaoke, and so endanger her unborn child...Now I have to say...what a load of ****! (sorry for the word /images/graemlins/tongue.gif) If a person is going to smoke, banning it in public places will not stop them, they will just do it at home!

We also have some horrid advert here in the UK. The current ones are things like "Mary never smoked around her children" and it shows flowers, indicating her death /images/graemlins/frown.gif and it goes on to say "It doesnt matter how conciderately you smoke. The only way to save your family from the effects is to quit" or something like that anyway. There are a few like this and some people will take it in, but others obviously just want to smoke.

If Im in public and Im with people who smoke all I ask is that they dont hold it right in front of me, so perhaps the other side of them and most people I know are conciderate of this because Im not asking them to stop. I dont think people have the right to ask you to stop/move away if you were there first, they could sit/stand somewhere else /images/graemlins/smile.gif (although if there isnt anywhere else and there are small children/pregnant women, I would hope people would be more understanding to that. Which Im sure people are)
My brother wont smoke in the house, because no-one else does. Not even in his room - which Mum said would be fine, because he does pay to live here! - but he goes outside, even in the snow bless him!

OK, well thats my bit said. *walks away from smokey corner* /images/graemlins/tongue.gif lol

Hollie xxx

[littlangel008]

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If a person is going to smoke, banning it in public places will not stop them, they will just do it at home!


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That's true, but stopping people from smoking is not the aim of banning cigarettes from public places, the goal of this is to avoid non-smokers to get polluated by the smoke. I've learnt that cigarettes smoke that you just breathe is more dangerous for non-smokers than smoke that smokers swallow.

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I dont think people have the right to ask you to stop/move away if you were there first, they could sit/stand somewhere else

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I think the priority should be in favor of non-smokers. It's not the non-smoker who has to move away but the smoker him/herself! it's called respect.
Plus, in pubs or nightclubs, it's full very often and whenever you get the opportunity to sit down , you hardly have any choice to move and find another seat. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
I think we shouldn't even need to ask people to stop, they should do it themselves, it is called common sense!

[Hollieangel]

Well actually, the point our Government at least is trying to ban smoking is about half and half for non-smokers/smokers health and stopping people. If you look at an example I gave, it was because a pregnant woman was at a pub, and so it made it "easier" for her to smoke, which is utterly stupid as if she was going to smoke while pregnant then she would just do it at home!
I understand the health issues etc and I know that second-hand smoke is actually more dangerous, but if people are that worried about it then they shouldnt ever go near anyone who smokes at all.
Pubs are actually a place where you expect such things as smoking and drinking. At least here they are. They pretty much always have been, so its not really fair to change that for the people who have always had that place to do such things, just because some people dont like it (ok, so its a lot, but if u dont want smoke in a pub, then dont go....or go to one where u know that smoking is not allowed)
Clubs. Well, so far as I know, you cannot smoke in a club. Its a fire hazard I think /images/graemlins/confused.gif Well, Ive not noticed people smoking in the clubs near me....other than probably the toilets! yuck!...but then I dont go on a regular basis, so I dont know whether or not you can.

About the seating: You also took that out of context. I said if the person was there first and if there WAS other seating available, where the smoke would not be near them, then no, they dont have the right to ask the person to stop. They could have seated themselves further away.
I know it is common sense for people to stop when someone is near them, but how are they to know whether the person is a smoker or not - or whether or not they mind?? (in fact most of the people I meet ask if I mind, I say "No. So long as you keep the smoke away from me") and should they have to stop everytime they are near someone just in case?? No, its not fair. Well, I dont think its fair. (Its like person A eating something with a strong smell and then person B comes along and it makes them feel sick. Is person A supposed to not eat because it upsets Person B??)

Like I said, I would hope in cases such as young children/pregnant women being present that a smoker would do the curtious thing and stop and I have seen this occur many times.

This subject could get very silly because car exhaust fumes are dangerous to our health also...should we stop using cars - well, vehicles of any kind, other than electric/solar powered - because they could potentially be just as dangerous or irritable for athsmatics(sp??) /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Well...to sum up: most places I know either have smoking/non-smoking sections, far enough away....or, if it is a place where families/a lot of people will be, its just "no smoking" at all. I dont see it as a huge problem - where I live - because most people are conciderate and if you ask politely (if there is not other spaces available for sitting/standing) then they are normally fine with it (other than the occassional annoying person! /images/graemlins/mad.gif lol)

I dont smoke, but I dont find it fair how all smokers are "thrown" things, like the fact that they HAVE to quit because it could kill them/their family etc etc. If they want to quit, they will, if not (or cant), then just hope that they are decent enough to be conciderate of other people's health. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif (quite a number of people do realise that their health/family is worth more and so try to quit, well done to them /images/graemlins/wink.gif)
Anyway, if the Governments of the world are so worried, then why dont they ban cigerettes altogther?? Because it makes them too much money and the companies would just make them any way - such as when Alcohol was banned in the USA /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Hollie xxx

[littlangel008]

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if people are that worried about it then they shouldnt ever go near anyone who smokes at all.


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I strongly disagree with you there. smokers HAVE to be careful where they are when they smoke..An example: i catch my train to go to uni twice a week, when there's no seat in non-smokers area anymore, where am i supposed to sit? next to a smoker who's gonna poison me for the rest of the trip? that's what i'm compelled to do, and it sucks..I get home with red eyes, a sore throat and skin allergy! GREAT!
For a few weeks, cigarettes have been banned in all french trains and it makes it easier for everybody, smokers and non-smokers! If they can't not smoke for more than half an hour, then they just find another way to get where they want!

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Pubs are actually a place where you expect such things as smoking and drinking. At least here they are. They pretty much always have been, so its not really fair to change that for the people who have always had that place to do such things, just because some people dont like it

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I think you're so wrong once again. Here you're saying that if you don't smoke then don't go to pubs..i'm sorry but it's not fair. People come and poison you with their friken smoke and YOU have to move on cause you can't stand the smoke??? come on, this is a lack of respect and common sense. People whodon't smoke should be the first allowed in pubs and night-clubs, they are the most sane ones!

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how are they to know whether the person is a smoker or not - or whether or not they mind??

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they have a tongue, they simply ask. Some people do and it's cool from them.

Your example with the food has nothing to do with cigarettes smoke, which is dangerous for health, not the smelly sandwich the person next to you is eating.
Your other examples about cars isn't the same again. We need cars in everyday life, not cigarettes (if you don't start in the first place)
Also, they're working on new electric cars and such things to avoid pollution, but that's another problem.

[Hollieangel]

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I strongly disagree with you there. smokers HAVE to be careful where they are when they smoke..An example: i catch my train to go to uni twice a week, when there's no seat in non-smokers area anymore, where am i supposed to sit? next to a smoker who's gonna poison me for the rest of the trip? that's what i'm compelled to do, and it sucks..I get home with red eyes, a sore throat and skin allergy! GREAT!
For a few weeks, cigarettes have been banned in all french trains and it makes it easier for everybody, smokers and non-smokers! If they can't not smoke for more than half an hour, then they just find another way to get where they want!

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Train Issue: I understand that, that must be horrid and isnt fair if there are not seats in the non-smoking area. The point I was trying to make though was that the occassional, having to sit there for a minute or two isnt that bad and if people are that worried about it (again, going on where I live, its really not that bad in every day life) then they shouldnt be near people who smoke at all because the smoke still lingers (I hate it when my brother comes in smelling like it, yuk!)
I dont really use trains, but I always thought it was banned on about 3/4 of the train, as I always remember seeing little "no smoking" signs. But then this is from when I was quite young and again, where I live.

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I think you're so wrong once again. Here you're saying that if you don't smoke then don't go to pubs..i'm sorry but it's not fair. People come and poison you with their friken smoke and YOU have to move on cause you can't stand the smoke??? come on, this is a lack of respect and common sense. People whodon't smoke should be the first allowed in pubs and night-clubs, they are the most sane ones!

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lol! thats true! Well, what I was trying to say, was that pubs have been there for at least a hundred years I would say and so thats not fair to take that away, or at least I dont think it is. Again, where I live, I find most people to be fairly conciderate of others, even in pubs. Yes, you will get people smoking, but most, normally, ask if you mind (Here anyway) and if not then they go away until they are finished.

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they have a tongue, they simply ask. Some people do and it's cool from them.

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Yeah, I know and as I keep saying, most people I have seen, do ask, other than the odd annoying few! lol *pokes annoying few*

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Your example with the food has nothing to do with cigarettes smoke, which is dangerous for health, not the smelly sandwich the person next to you is eating.

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I know it doesnt, but it was an example, actually quite a random one that I thougght of at the time. But it does still apply in the same situtaion - health - because if that person REALLY cannot stand the smell (like I hate fresh fish, makes me feel ill istantly) then it can cause them to be sick, which could - in extreme cases - lead to tearing of the osophagus, which isnt good....but if the person had other available seating further away, then they should take it /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Although, Im beginning to disagree with myself now (happens so much with me on the slightest things normally...) and I probably would *poke* someone and ask them to stop or something /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Your other examples about cars isn't the same again. We need cars in everyday life, not cigarettes (if you don't start in the first place)
Also, they're working on new electric cars and such things to avoid pollution, but that's another problem.

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I did say, excluding electric and solar powered cars /images/graemlins/smile.gif But we dont need cars in every day life, it has just become easier to use them. It is the same thing though, because Vehicle Exhaust Fumes (petrol and Desiel) are dangerous to people's health and even more so to people with Asthema (sp??) much like smoking is. So I do find it to be the same thing.

well, we could go back and forth on this all year long (really dont want, might want to do other things /images/graemlins/wink.gif lol) as whatevr anyone says, there will always be another side...whether its "right" or "wrong", it will always be there.
Im just taking things from my experiences, where, mostly people are conciderate and either stop, without asking or ask, then stop. Some people just move futher away if you seem to have a bit of a problem. They are rather nice around here, I suppose /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Oh and I totally agree that people should just not start in the first place. But they always will (normally as ateenager because its seen as "cool"! lol) because, unless companies stop making them, they will always be around. *shrug*

*sits and thinks of seending all cigerette makers to the Arctic....* HeeHee

Hollie xxx

[Cecilie]

I have noting agains smoking, as long as I don't need to breath in the smoke.

If you wanna smoke, don't do it in public places. Do it in your own livingroom. That way, no one got the right to complain, and you don't force your poision on others!

[charmedfan429]

Im use to smokers even know I have ashma and it makes it hard to breath,My brother,dad,and my cousin smoke,but I dont think Im going to end up doing it.

peace,
Annie

[OGtuck]

We sit here and talk about smoking. However, what I really want to know and ask everyone and can't get an answer about is why would you want to start in the first place? There is nothing attractive about it, it doesn't taste good or make you smell good.....when I say it doesn't taste good--I mean I have kissed someone who smoked and never will again, it doesn't make you cool, it costs money to support ending your life, every one takes 6 mins off your life, it causes numerous diseases......should I keep going? There is nothing appealing about it, why start or what posseses someone to even try it? As far as god putting the tabacco plant here for a reason.....why don't you go chop up some grass or a cactus or poision ivy and smoke it.....just because it's here doesn't mean that is the reason for it. That's like saying god put arsenic here to drink. If it has no positive effect it's not here because of god. Maybe you have your spiritual beings incorrect, maybe you meant the devil. Maybe the devil guides everyone to use certain things for the wrong reasons. You are not supposed to destroy the temple of god and that's exactly what it does. Not to mention destroys everyone elses around you. And I really respect Steff for quitting! MUCH CONGRATS!

[Bayou_Girl]

I lost my dad from smokes. It's not a pretty picture when you have to sit in a hospital and watch a loved one die because he smoked his whole life. If only I knew back then that smokes would kill my dad I wouldn't have sat back and watched him kill himself. My dad was only 53 years old when he died! That is only half of the life that God gives us!

[OGtuck]

Interesting.....after my post noone had a response to what I said. I don't find that unusual, there isn't a valid response when you point out the facts.

[verynsanedru]

Look I don't smoke but I'm not gonna be in a pub and ask people not to smoke, I'm not the boss of them, and they are no less sane then the non-smokers.

[OGtuck]

Except for the fact they are intentionally destroying their bodies......they are no less sane.

[The_Power_Of_Piper]

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We sit here and talk about smoking. However, what I really want to know and ask everyone and can't get an answer about is why would you want to start in the first place? There is nothing attractive about it, it doesn't taste good or make you smell good.....

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Me too.. Why'd ya wanna start?!

I mean.. on school ya see a lot of kids who start smoking just 'cause they think it's cool. I think that's pathetic.

I don't hate smokers or something like that.. But I hate it when they smoke when ya are in the middle of convo (and blow the smoke right into your face .. ya know.. that SUCKS)..

[ILuvPheebsAlyssa]

Well, I really hate cigarettes and I still dont understand why people start to smoke. But it's their choice and I can't do anything about it. Most of my friends from college smoke, but they respect us (non-smokers) and never smoke while we're having a conversation. And after all, they're destroying their own bodies, not mine.

[OGtuck]

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Well, I really hate cigarettes and I still dont understand why people start to smoke. But it's their choice and I can't do anything about it. Most of my friends from college smoke, but they respect us (non-smokers) and never smoke while we're having a conversation. And after all, they're destroying their own bodies, not mine.

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If you are around it they are destroying yours. Actually maybe moreso than theirs. You are breathing in unfiltered second hand smoke....not exactly pleasant or healthy.

[ILuvPheebsAlyssa]

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Well, I really hate cigarettes and I still dont understand why people start to smoke. But it's their choice and I can't do anything about it. Most of my friends from college smoke, but they respect us (non-smokers) and never smoke while we're having a conversation. And after all, they're destroying their own bodies, not mine.

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If you are around it they are destroying yours. Actually maybe moreso than theirs. You are breathing in unfiltered second hand smoke....not exactly pleasant or healthy.

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Yeah I know about that. But I always avoid staying at the same place when someone is smoking. I can't stand the smell, it makes me feel sick of my stomach. And I know that non-smokers usually have more health problems because of cigarettes then smokers. But still, if I chose not to smoke, people have to respect that and not smoke near me. At least my friends do that.

[OGtuck]

Yeah I know about that. But I always avoid staying at the same place when someone is smoking. I can't stand the smell, it makes me feel sick of my stomach. And I know that non-smokers usually have more health problems because of cigarettes then smokers. But still, if I chose not to smoke, people have to respect that and not smoke near me. At least my friends do that.

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Most of my friends are the same way. They go outside if they want to do that. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Just wish people would wake up the reality they don't need that or that it makes them unattractive. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[iamnaomie]

when I was young i had these neighbor friends and i was always at their house and their parents smoked in the house. so now when ever i pass second hand smoke i breath it in and it actaully calms me down and i feel better then when i did before i smelled it. seriously that is not good! i get a nicotine fix! or maybe its the happy memories that the smoke brings...? i hope lol. but no i would never smoke ever