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Trader47
05-23-2006, 10:03 PM
I had a hard time deciding whether or not to review this film, because I think my perspective on it is going to be completely different from just about anyone else's who sees it...this because I'm one of the 6 or 7 people on the planet I guess who hasn't read the novel, and although I of course knew what it was about in a general sort of way, really didn't know much about what to expect from it going in. And although I've yet to read or hear an actual review of the film, I've gathered from all I've seen that the critics have generally trashed it mercilessly, and my guess is that audiences haven't much appreciated it either, since novels that are so well known and liked tend to be tough sells as movies. And because of all this, I feel like anyone who might read this probably knows a lot more about it all then I do, and that feels kind of weird from a perspective of trying to review it, LOL.
But, since the chances of actually reading an even somewhat positive review anywhere else sound like they might not be so hot, I decided to post mine...because, whatever else I think, I'd at least have to put this one in a sort of guilty pleasure category.

And guilty pleasure, at least to a degree, IS what I think I'd have to call it, because of what I consider to be it's major problems. For one, this film does not have anything like either the look or feel of lighthearted fantasy classics like Raiders of the Lost Ark, or even the ludicrous but goofily entertaining film National Treasure, which is probably the one it most obviously resembles in a lot of ways. But this one eschews the light touch of that style film, acting instead like a dark and serious minded thriller....and yet, right from the outset there are scenes that strain the credibility way past the breaking point, LOL, and while the film isn't exactly FULL of these, it continues to have it's share of them.
And then there's problem #2, which concerns at least one of the films climaxes, LOL...obviously, even though I know it's likely that anyone who reads this will already know what happens, I still won't say anything specific about this. But I will say that I could find no really logical explanation for the actions of one of the major characters near the conclusion of this film...and I realize that's a vague statement, but if anyone thinks they know what I mean and thinks they CAN logically explain this characters action's for me, I'd greatly appreciate either a pm or a post with spoiler warnings.

But in any event, these sorts of problems, which boil down to credibility issues at times and what, for now at least, I'll continue to consider a pretty major plot hole, are usually more than enough to make me consider this sort of thriller a big miss. But in this case, they somehow failed to ruin it for me. In spite of everything, I had a great time following this film through all it's mysterious twists and turns, and loved the neat intricacy of the overall plot, which, in spite of my motivation questions concerning a character, does make a sort of nicely ingenious sense in an overall way. And it's a great looking film, as well... with, of course, a great cast who all play their parts to perfection...there's real good chemistry between Tom Hanks and Audrey Tautou, and Jean Reno and Ian McKellan are both excellent as usual in large supporting roles. And then, of course, there's Ron Howard, who I think just purely knows how to make good movies...(yeah, I know there WAS that Grinch incident...but everybody has inexplicable misses once in awhile, and THAT serves those who have so few of them right, LMAO.) But this type of material, which is essentially a popcorn thriller, but one which depends heavily upon an exposition of intellectual ideas through discussion of them, is, I think, very tough to make a good film out of. But Howard largely pulls it off, filling his film with enough dark atmosphere and fascinating dialog to keep things moving along much as they should. And for me, the result of all that is a film that won't make my list of the year's best, (or my list of Howard's best, for that matter) but one I really enjoyed nonetheless.

And so there you have it...if you've read this and seen the film, then odds are, from all I've gleaned, you completely disagree with me on this...but at least you HAVE seen direct evidence that there's somebody somewhere who, all reservations aside, actually liked this movie, LOL. :D

eilz7
05-24-2006, 03:48 AM
well, i have read the book. and i LOVED it! so as you can imagine i was really excited about seeing the film! i saw it last week...and i still dont really know what i think of it...i know that when i film is made based on a book, they have to edit and change it. but they changed it SO drstically at the end - it was AWFUL!!! and there wasnt actually a climax scene. well, i think the end was SUPPOSED to be but they didnt handle it very well. im really disappointed with it.
and raiders of the lost ark is SOOOO much better. at least harrison ford is good looking. tom hanks is SO not
alee
xxx

Trader47
05-24-2006, 02:25 PM
well, i have read the book. and i LOVED it! so as you can imagine i was really excited about seeing the film!

Yeah...this is just about always a problem...it's really tough to love a book and not have big problems with any films that get made out of it. It's one of those weird things though...everybody knows this, and yet everybody who loves a book still wants to see the movie version...I don't think we can help it, LOL. So it's got to be a quandry for producers and directors who decide to make one of these mega-popular best sellers into a movie...they know they're going to do big box office numbers with it, at least for a short-run...but they also have to know that a whole lot of people are going to hate the finished product, LOL. Cases like LOTR do happen...just about everyone was happy with that. But for most of us big fans of the trilogy, (especially, I think, the older ones) we were happy that it was able to be done as well as it was and achieve it's own sort of greatness...but ask us if we think it was as good as the books, and you'll get a resounding NO WAY, not even close, LOL. With all great literature, and even most prose work that isn't necessarily great but still manages to strike a chord with a lot of people, the real beauty of it lies in the details, and no matter how generally faithful a film may be to a story, a LOT of those details have to be glossed over and sometimes changed completely, either to fit the director's vision or Hollywood's vision of what movie audiences want to see, (that sort usually ends up maddening for just about EVERYBODY, LOL, but still end up making big bucks.) And, whatever the case, a film is always going to be someone elses vision of a story...and it's gotta be really rare when that vision perfectly matches your own as a reader. So it's a tough sell at best...and of course, for this movie, it's got all the protest gibberish on top of the usual problems...that generally helps the box office, but still produces even more people who'll hate it by default, LOL. So I don't know...I guess people who decide to make a film like this probably know there'll be a few weird crackpots like me out there who'll actually like it, and for the rest, I guess just resign themselves to making the big bucks and taking the critical lumps along with them. :D