Would a one world government work?

[Zanderi1]

I think that it would take too much time to accomplish but if there was enough dedication and commitment I think it could work. The way things are going right now (the formation of the European union, democracy spreading around the world etc..) it could happen, soon. Some benefits a one world government would bring are equal rights in every state in the world, a shared budget, shared technology and possibly would remove country to country conflict, the only conflict I can think of would be civil war, I think that it would be inevitable really.

Technically there is already a one world government, well sort of - the UN. But I don't think that it is effective enough. When countries in violation of international law and UN rules and when the UN security council meet and discuss imposing sanctions, the said countries laugh (like Iran right now). I also believe that the UN doesn't hold much control over the countries in the UN. They didn't intervene with a tough line to stop the 2nd gulf war. At least they didn't sanction the war.

A European union-style one world government would be suitable. All countries in the world join together and still keep their flags, national anthems but take turns at the Presidency.

What does everyone else think of the idea of a one world government?

[fudge]

have you read 1984?

while the book allows for three main governments, the principle is the same. in order to sustain the economy of such a large unified state, the governing body would have to have eternal conflict to pacify the people. and even then, civil strife in inevitable

[Volker]

Yes, I think, it would work. The complexity should not be so high, if we have subsidiarity. This government would only address global problems and let the regions, countries, municipalities handle their respective tasks. I don't think, civil wars would be inevitable, because if there is justice there is a place to go to solve conflicts. A one world government could look at conflicts as long as they are solvable in a peaceful manner.

[Scollzie]

Not under any centralized government. You might get away with scrapping international borders over time, but this would require that Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, etc get along. While racial discrimination is on the decline, unfortunately religious discrimination seems to be on the incline, at least within the minds of people.

Perhaps by putting governance back into the hands of the people, something of the likes of the Swiss Cantons today, where the people vote on just about every issue for their Canton.

But still people would have to be taught how to govern themselves. As Confuscius said "What business does a man have with the governance of others if he cannot govern himself?"

Unfortunately we're currently going in the exact opposite direction of this possibility by forever creating and maintaining religious, racial and/or political/economic tension abroad as a prophylactic to any possibility of a future war being ever waged on home soil.

Our only real hope lies with the next generation, and thos thereafter, but again unfortunately we'll only brainwash them all into our ways of thinking, and they will inherit all the problems we've so diligently defended. :(

[Volker]

Not under any centralized government. You might get away with scrapping international borders over time, but this would require that Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, etc get along. While racial discrimination is on the decline, unfortunately religious discrimination seems to be on the incline, at least within the minds of people.There is no need to give up borders. You only need an instance who solves conflicts. It can be a central one or not. A central one would be more easier to manage and probably less expensive.

Perhaps by putting governance back into the hands of the people, something of the likes of the Swiss Cantons today, where the people vote on just about every issue for their Canton.This is an excellent example. Switzerland consists of people with different languages, different confessions and different cultures. Ok, I admit, the cultures are not so different, even though Swiss people will probably tell you, they are :)

But still people would have to be taught how to govern themselves. As Confuscius said "What business does a man have with the governance of others if he cannot govern himself?"Many people tend to make good decisions then given a chance to decide on their own.

Unfortunately we're currently going in the exact opposite direction of this possibility by forever creating and maintaining religious, racial and/or political/economic tension abroad as a prophylactic to any possibility of a future war being ever waged on home soil.This is a small world, tensions abroad can't be a good thing.

Our only real hope lies with the next generation, and thos thereafter, but again unfortunately we'll only brainwash them all into our ways of thinking, and they will inherit all the problems we've so diligently defended. :(The next information has the theoretical chance to be better informed because of technology.

[fudge]

in order to have a somewhat effective centralized government, international borders would have to be stripped away. with even one border remaining, there will always be one country that has at least one citizen that feels their "people" are being shafted, so to speak. and, as we have all had the recent misfortune of witnessing, with just one person feeling this way, they will take drastic measures to ensure that what they believe must be done to correct this terrible travesty
plaguing their homeland, as it should exist.

the theory that a centralized government could work with the extant nations is flawed. there is not one government that would turn over full power to such an organization, nor would such an organization have the ability to create and/or sustain continual international peace.
look at the efforts of the un. they have the political know-how, scientists, and military force of some of the most powerful nations on the planet and they are still nearly worthless. one simply has to view the tragedy that remains africa to see that the relief presence provided by the un has had no effect. many nations in africa remain in turmoil

[Volker]

in order to have a somewhat effective centralized government, international borders would have to be stripped away. with even one border remaining, there will always be one country that has at least one citizen that feels their "people" are being shafted, so to speak. and, as we have all had the recent misfortune of witnessing, with just one person feeling this way, they will take drastic measures to ensure that what they believe must be done to correct this terrible travesty plaguing their homeland, as it should exist.California has a border with Oregon for instance. Í don't see the problem here.

the theory that a centralized government could work with the extant nations is flawed. there is not one government that would turn over full power to such an organization, nor would such an organization have the ability to create and/or sustain continual international peace.There are governments to give parts of their power to the European Union voluntary. There is a good chance that the European Union can save peace between the members, at least until now it worked.

look at the efforts of the un. they have the political know-how, scientists, and military force of some of the most powerful nations on the planet and they are still nearly worthless. one simply has to view the tragedy that remains africa to see that the relief presence provided by the un has had no effect. many nations in africa remain in turmoilI don't think, the UN was designed for being a kind of world government. I'd rather look at regional integration projects to find a model for a possible world government.

[Ozzie]

You will not have a true world government on this planet for a very long time......maybe 1000 years. Why?........because the present civilisation on this planet is too self centered, egocentric, corrupt and belligerent to want to even organise itself into a supergovernmental body. Also, it's not only the governments you have against you in this.....it's also the multinational corporations who have many world nations and leaders under their thumbs.

This society is too primitive, yet, to be wise enough to see the benefits of organising itself into one body. Although every single person on this planet is of the same species, it's the division of the population into these spurious racial/ethnic groups which is at the heart of the problem. The differences between "races" is only superficial.....genetically there's no difference at all, only in the expression of certain genetic characteristics. Ethnicity is cultural, and that is harder to overcome.

It is going to take a major "sea change" in the entire thinking and practical application of societal standards across this planet before a world government becomes a reality. That also means that belief systems such as the present day religions will have to completely change or fall by the wayside. It's highly preferable that they fall by the wayside as in their present and foreseeable forms, they will be nothing more than a hinderance to tolerance and harmony on this planet. A new spirituality will have to develop.....one completely divorced from the thinking of the present day religions. One far more concerned with compassion, humility and humanity....with a far greater depth of understanding of the presence of God in reality and within each and every one of us. A far greater appreciation and knowledge of the nature of God and the interconnectedness of all of reality.

It will come in time.....so long as humanity keeps evolving culturally and spiritually, given things progress as they should. However, it'll more than likely take some major catastrophe to wake humanity up to the fact that things need to be changed....otherwise face extinction or forever wallowing in the misery of the status quo.

[Scollzie]

You will not have a true world government on this planet for a very long time......maybe 1000 years. Why?........because the present civilisation on this planet is too self centered, egocentric, corrupt and belligerent to want to even organise itself into a supergovernmental body. Also, it's not only the governments you have against you in this.....it's also the multinational corporations who have many world nations and leaders under their thumbs.

This society is too primitive, yet, to be wise enough to see the benefits of organising itself into one body. Although every single person on this planet is of the same species, it's the division of the population into these spurious racial/ethnic groups which is at the heart of the problem. The differences between "races" is only superficial.....genetically there's no difference at all, only in the expression of certain genetic characteristics. Ethnicity is cultural, and that is harder to overcome.

It is going to take a major "sea change" in the entire thinking and practical application of societal standards across this planet before a world government becomes a reality. That also means that belief systems such as the present day religions will have to completely change or fall by the wayside. It's highly preferable that they fall by the wayside as in their present and foreseeable forms, they will be nothing more than a hinderance to tolerance and harmony on this planet. A new spirituality will have to develop.....one completely divorced from the thinking of the present day religions. One far more concerned with compassion, humility and humanity....with a far greater depth of understanding of the presence of God in reality and within each and every one of us. A far greater appreciation and knowledge of the nature of God and the interconnectedness of all of reality.

It will come in time.....so long as humanity keeps evolving culturally and spiritually, given things progress as they should. However, it'll more than likely take some major catastrophe to wake humanity up to the fact that things need to be changed....otherwise face extinction or forever wallowing in the misery of the status quo.

Yeah, the current highly-organized despotism can only last for so long. Certainly as the overall intelligence of the planet grows, people will question more and more how things are being done, and new methods will be devised.

If you met your president in the street are you supposed to salute him? Or is he supposed to salute you? I thought government in a democracy is supposed to be servants of the people? But yet they act like kings? :rolleyes:

[WURLY]

You will not have a true world government on this planet for a very long time......maybe 1000 years. Why?........because the present civilisation on this planet is too self centered, egocentric, corrupt and belligerent to want to even organise itself into a supergovernmental body. Also, it's not only the governments you have against you in this.....it's also the multinational corporations who have many world nations and leaders under their thumbs.

This society is too primitive, yet, to be wise enough to see the benefits of organising itself into one body. Although every single person on this planet is of the same species, it's the division of the population into these spurious racial/ethnic groups which is at the heart of the problem. The differences between "races" is only superficial.....genetically there's no difference at all, only in the expression of certain genetic characteristics. Ethnicity is cultural, and that is harder to overcome.

It is going to take a major "sea change" in the entire thinking and practical application of societal standards across this planet before a world government becomes a reality. That also means that belief systems such as the present day religions will have to completely change or fall by the wayside. It's highly preferable that they fall by the wayside as in their present and foreseeable forms, they will be nothing more than a hinderance to tolerance and harmony on this planet. A new spirituality will have to develop.....one completely divorced from the thinking of the present day religions. One far more concerned with compassion, humility and humanity....with a far greater depth of understanding of the presence of God in reality and within each and every one of us. A far greater appreciation and knowledge of the nature of God and the interconnectedness of all of reality.

It will come in time.....so long as humanity keeps evolving culturally and spiritually, given things progress as they should. However, it'll more than likely take some major catastrophe to wake humanity up to the fact that things need to be changed....otherwise face extinction or forever wallowing in the misery of the status quo.
Hello Ozzie, Just a few lines to say that I enjoyed your expression so to speak. Maybe when the whole of humankind get a chance to read what you have been typing. Then maybe there is some hope for the future. Can you just imagine how things would of been by now, if all of the previous conflicts had not slowed technology down. And maybe if those who wish to be distructive like suicide bombers could only realize that the only matyrs that really exist are those Doctors and nurses trying to save lives. And of course those who are trying to prevent harm coming to others. If only the people that antaganize good american people, could realize that if it was not for the American people, most of the middle eastern people would not exist at all, if the Americans did not intervene in the second world war. Take care you all, Blessings from England. keeping hope alive, WURLY

[Hannah]

I agree with Ozzie - it would take years before there could be a one world government.

I believe that the English government isn't at its greatest anyway and other governments are the same so for there to be a one world government the leaders of every country would have to be equals and have an understanding of what EVERY country needs. Some leaders don't understand the needs of their own countries yet alone being able to manage others!

I think that there is too much conflict between countries as it is at the moment without trying to unite every country to make the world better.

[Scollzie]

Hello Ozzie, Just a few lines to say that I enjoyed your expression so to speak. Maybe when the whole of humankind get a chance to read what you have been typing. Then maybe there is some hope for the future. Can you just imagine how things would of been by now, if all of the previous conflicts had not slowed technology down. And maybe if those who wish to be distructive like suicide bombers could only realize that the only matyrs that really exist are those Doctors and nurses trying to save lives. And of course those who are trying to prevent harm coming to others. If only the people that antaganize good american people, could realize that if it was not for the American people, most of the middle eastern people would not exist at all, if the Americans did not intervene in the second world war. Take care you all, Blessings from England. keeping hope alive, WURLY

Then one might as well thank Japan for bringing the USA into the war.

But in any event, it was the Red Army who took Berlin, not the USA, despite the fallacies you may have heard before... details here... (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/battle_for_berlin.htm)

In fact, it was the Russians who suffered the most casualties in that war too, and they also emerged victorious from that war having the largest army in the history of mankind - 5 million or so soldiers! ;)

You can blame all the propaganda spread as a result of the cold war for the disinformation that followed. Interesting, eh? ;)

[Ozzie]

Then one might as well thank Japan for bringing the USA into the war.

But in any event, it was the Red Army who took Berlin, not the USA, despite the fallacies you may have heard before... details here... (http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/battle_for_berlin.htm)

In fact, it was the Russians who suffered the most casualties in that war too, and they also emerged victorious from that war having the largest army in the history of mankind - 5 million or so soldiers! ;)

You can blame all the propaganda spread as a result of the cold war for the disinformation that followed. Interesting, eh? ;)

It's always the same, my friend. It's the victors who write the history of things, not the conquered. Change the outcome, and you change the story. It's always the one with the best and biggest propaganda machine that wins....also the one with the loudest mouth.

[Hannah]

The only problem with the whole idea of a one world government is that everybody has a difference of opinion - how would they all unite?

Take the people replying to this message as an example... if we were all government leaders we'd be doing what we believe is best for our government. Then there'd be conflict because you'd get those who agree with each other against those who don't. I think if it came down to a one world government there'd be more bad before the good could be seen because people would be trying to get their governments to be the one that was "in control" so to speak.

To create a whole new government from scratch would take years and for people to be able to put their differences aside which with our self obsessed society as it is today I think will become an extremely difficult task.

[Scollzie]

It's always the same, my friend. It's the victors who write the history of things, not the conquered. Change the outcome, and you change the story. It's always the one with the best and biggest propaganda machine that wins....also the one with the loudest mouth.

Exactly. While war does not determine who is right, but only who is left - whoever wins the war is right, period!

[Scollzie]

The only problem with the whole idea of a one world government is that everybody has a difference of opinion - how would they all unite?

Take the people replying to this message as an example... if we were all government leaders we'd be doing what we believe is best for our government. Then there'd be conflict because you'd get those who agree with each other against those who don't. I think if it came down to a one world government there'd be more bad before the good could be seen because people would be trying to get their governments to be the one that was "in control" so to speak.

To create a whole new government from scratch would take years and for people to be able to put their differences aside which with our self obsessed society as it is today I think will become an extremely difficult task.

They would be brainwashed from birth to do so. Brainwash them that the only way to resolve an issue is to sit round the table and talk. Brainwash them that weapons and war are completely useless no matter what. Brainwash them that there is more than enough to go around. Brainwash them that co-operation is the only way to go.

We have all been brainwashed into believing and accepting the world as it is today. Imagine if everybody the world over had to suffer permanent amnesia from tomorrow? Not having any recollection at all what the heck we've been doing all these years, we'd have to start figuring out something to do. Nobody would have any reason to launch a missile, etc. It would take some time for the "new-age cavemen" to progress to that.

But if we coupled a global amnesia with the positive brainwashing I mentioned at the top, how would things then be?

Rule 1) A human being may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

Rule 2) A human being must obey laws given it by human beings except where such laws would conflict with the First Law.

Rule 3) A human being must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Sure, it's a little simplistic, but I'm sure you get the jist of what I'm saying! :D

[Ozzie]

I guess Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics could apply just as easily to us as they do to robots:D And judging by the way most people are working these days, you'd think they were robots!!!:eek::D

[Hannah]

I guess Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics could apply just as easily to us as they do to robots:D And judging by the way most people are working these days, you'd think they were robots!!!:eek::D

Who's 3 laws of what!?!?!?!?!