EJ and Sami today were incredible

[Jay_B]

I may be the minority here but I thought today's show was fantastic. I've said this on another board and I'll say it here. Today was a turning point w/EJ and Sami. EJ showed that he can have a heart and he loves Sami and she showed that she too can crack under pressure and was in denial. Hey some may not agree with that but he did say that she was pretending.... I so wish that I can see more of a relationship of EJ and Sami, the man loves her just the way that she is and doesn't want to change her. Today's a turning point in their relationship and I can't wait for it to be explored more.

[Mander]

I won't state the obvious that I disagree but I would be interested in why you feel this way. I didn't see anything out of EJ that wasn't typical of a stalker and typical threats. I definitely don't see where you think he has a heart in any of this or loves her? Would you care to elaborate a bit more because I totally don't see anything that EJAMI fans seem to. I've tried. I consider myself to be an open person but all I've seen was a man who raped her and has repeatidly harrassed her putting both the health of her and her unborn child in jeopardy. I don't believe he even knows what love is. I think he's obsessed with her the same as Stefano was obsessed with Marlena. Ala Sami is EJ's Queen of the Night and nothing more.

As for being in the minority - You're probably right but you are more than welcome to post your opinions and speculations here. :)

[Thiroshag]

All i can say is i love ej and sami they R beautifut together. HATED THE RAPE FACTOR, GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY THE WRITERS WOULD GOOOO DO THAT. Ps ali is so gorgeous she was on the cover of TV PLUS she has been in tv plus a whole lot lately.

[tntwatchindays]

OK I'll have to check this one out when it reruns on Soapnet. But all I can say regarding EJ is this: "DiMera!" Unless they're going to turn Salem on its head, EJ won't have but so much of a heart. Those &$%# DiMeras! ;)

[Midnight]

I don't think that EJ loves Sami, he's just using her to fulfill his needs. It seems like he's frightening Sami and is making her really upset. EJ also seems to enjoy having Sami be his puppet and causing her to do what he wants because otherwise he'll tell Lucas. Lucas and Sami are definitely a much better match because Lucas really cares about her. I don't think EJ cares about Sami unless as someone whom he can manipulate.

[SuperSami]

James Scott rocks but EJ is just plain psycho. If EJ loved Sami, he wouldn't have blackmailed, tried to destroy her family and raped her. That isn't love, at least not in my book.

[Mander]

I have to add that EJ didn't let up on Sami even when she broke down and cried that she just wanted one evening to be a normal happy bride. He continued until Lucas came into the room and only then did he leave. I'm afraid Sami's heading for an emotional breakdown.

[Jay_B]

I won't state the obvious that I disagree but I would be interested in why you feel this way. What is the obvious? I like the fact that Sami has someone that is on the same page as her. Some may disagree but Sami and EJ are similar in the things that they've done and she's shown that she can change.. I like the fact that Sami has someone that can go toe to toe with her and someone that wants her to stay the same and not have to change just to be loved. EJ loves Sami he did let up on her when she cried. I think the reason why he's throwing down on her so to speak is because you can't step to Sami with kid gloves. EJ's trying to save face when he comes up to Sami acting all glib because he's a man people. Lets face it they don't wanna look soft when they put themselves out there. Why is it hard to believe that EJ loves Sami? I mean Sami did do some outlandish things to land her man so what's the difference with EJ besides him being a Dimera? Don't get me wrong I love Sami to death, I keep saying that she's misunderstood however if you really look at things EJ and Sami are similar and have done similar things to get what they want. All of this being said I will address the rape factor.......... I must admit when that went down I had a, "HUH," moment there because I thought for sure EJ and Sami would've hooked up, I still think they can. However, you still can have a great storyline and couple out of those two I still believe in that. I'm not one to advocate rape, I'm not doing that but check out Luke and Laura there.. Growing up watching them on TV and FINALLY finding out what Luke did, (yeah I watch GH too) I had another, "WHA?!?!" moment there myself. I still can't figure out how the writers @ GH fixed that to have them a supercouple but, it was done. I still see potential in EJ and Sami. For all we know he may be like Patch and John.

[Tanyag9]

Um... I used to be a hardcore lumi fan all the way.. even when sami was still obsessed with austin a few years ago. [Like during the whole italy plot and whatever...]. I was very happy when they actually started getting along =P
But.. with time i started to resent lucas for letting sami fall every time and, well, kind of kicking her when she is down.
So i wanted to see some Ejami to make lucas get on his knees and beg for forgiveness :p
But After EJ shot sami's step father and raped her, that killed the pairing for me. [Especially since sami had been raped before, so it must be very painful for her.]
EJ claims to love sami who she is, but he doesnt. It's true some people are only there for sami when they like what she is doing, when she is "good", but EJ only wants her to be the way he see's her. He is just like everyone esle, but in "reverse". He doesn't want the real sami, he wants the bishie trouble maker sami [and as much as i love her my self, that doesnt mean he accepts who she is :P].
So yea... no Ejami for me ._.;

[shakabigfoot]

I positivly LOVE the EJ and Sami scenes! There are so many nuances and energies just seething under the surface. Their attraction is electric and their interaction is captivating. I am always GLUED to my TV when they are on and I can't get enough!!!

Their is so much deepth and common ground. The way they understand each other, try to trick each other but always know when the other is up to something. I have said it a thousand times. Sami is the yin to EJ's yang.

[shakabigfoot]

you are more than welcome to post your opinions and speculations here. :)

Now that is wonderful to hear!!! Glad that we are allowed to voice our appreciation of EJAMI and the scenes between Sami and EJ now. :)

We do so love the way they interact in their scenes together and what the relationship has to offer. Ali has asked us to come over here but I have not come due to past events. So it is wonderful to know we are now welcome to speak of our adoration and passion for Ali and her scenes with James Scott. I thank for now letting us voice our thoughts on the matter. ;) :D

[Indygal2007]

Hi Shaka!

I finally found a name to register. You know me better as Juniper on the James and Forbidden boards. I am so enjoying the Ejami scenes these days. We are starting to see the human side of EJ. He is a much more complex character than the writers were making him out to be lately. I am really looking forward to Monday. :)

[Tanyag9]

Now that is wonderful to hear!!! Glad that we are allowed to voice our appreciation of EJAMI and the scenes between Sami and EJ now. :)

We do so love the way they interact in their scenes together and what the relationship has to offer. Ali has asked us to come over here but I have not come due to past events. So it is wonderful to know we are now welcome to speak of our adoration and passion for Ali and her scenes with James Scott. I thank for now letting us voice our thoughts on the matter. ;) :D

This is the Alison Sweeny board, not a lumi board.:p
You shouldn't be afraid to express your opinion .___. [freedom of speech and all =P]

[shakabigfoot]

This is the Alison Sweeny board, not a lumi board.:p
You shouldn't be afraid to express your opinion .___. [freedom of speech and all =P]
Won't go into it but it is nice to be welcomed now! :p :D Now we can express our Ali and Sami love including speaking about our adoration of the couple EJAMI. :p Thanks Ali!!!!

Anywho, I am waiting in great anticipation to see the true, real, honest, accepting of herself and her wicked ways Sami. She is truly a villain that has a heart and layers. IMO That is why she is so easy to adore!

Do you guys remember that bar scene where she was plastered and was talking about her being the Anti-Brady? (What a wonderful and accurate scene that was! I was LMAO!!!) Then when she stood up to her father? It only lasted for that one scene, but I saw the Sami I know lives deep inside and I can't wait for her to be set free!!! The confident, not apoligising for who or what she is, owning her power and not needing everyones approval. I was so destroyed when it lasted only that episode and the weak, codepentdent apoligetic and needy Sami reappeared as did her relationship with Lucas. When will she realize that her childhood dreams of the PERFECT DISNEY story arn't real and that she is beautiful, wonderful, and perfect just the way she is??? EJ gave her a strength and power I so crave to see and I can't WAIT for the unleashing of it!!! The day the childish, codepentant and doormat side of Sami dies and the amazing phenoix within her rises will be the GREATEST day for the soap Days ever!!! IMO of course

[shakabigfoot]

Hi Shaka!

I finally found a name to register. You know me better as Juniper on the James and Forbidden boards. I am so enjoying the Ejami scenes these days. We are starting to see the human side of EJ. He is a much more complex character than the writers were making him out to be lately. I am really looking forward to Monday. :)
Hey girlfriend! Great to see you made it in. LOL AND your name doesn't have to be WHJTOSBLowerlwe1238746! :D

[Mander]

I don't have time right now for my repsonse to all this. Just wanted to make a couple quick comments before I head out.

JayB - By "the obvious" I was referring to the "obvious" fact that I disagree with you :)

Shaka - Everyone has ALWAYS been welcome to express their opinions and support here. "Past events" had nothing to do with that fact. There were other issues. That's all I'm going to say on the issue in this public forum.

[SuperSami]

EJ continues to creep me out. Can't wait for him to be murdered. Until then--ick

[poisonivy70]

Um... I used to be a hardcore lumi fan all the way.. even when sami was still obsessed with austin a few years ago. [Like during the whole italy plot and whatever...]. I was very happy when they actually started getting along =P
But.. with time i started to resent lucas for letting sami fall every time and, well, kind of kicking her when she is down.
So i wanted to see some Ejami to make lucas get on his knees and beg for forgiveness :p
But After EJ shot sami's step father and raped her, that killed the pairing for me. [Especially since sami had been raped before, so it must be very painful for her.]
EJ claims to love sami who she is, but he doesnt. It's true some people are only there for sami when they like what she is doing, when she is "good", but EJ only wants her to be the way he see's her. He is just like everyone esle, but in "reverse". He doesn't want the real sami, he wants the bishie trouble maker sami [and as much as i love her my self, that doesnt mean he accepts who she is :P].
So yea... no Ejami for me ._.;


I can respect your opinion and I absolutely agree with you about Lucas - he has taken back his love and hurt Sami many times, and honestly I could never get behind a pairing with Lucas. I just don't think they'll ever trust each other, and their time passed. I hope Lucas finds another girl that he can have a fresh start with, honestly. Maybe try a good girl again, they won't all sleep with your brother :P

I want Sami to stand on her own, to be the strong woman she can be. I disagree with your statements that EJ doesn't love both sides of her. I truly believe that he can appreciate the bad girl as well as the good in her, he simply wants her to be honest with herself, first and foremost. That's been the main theme in many of their conversations, even before December. Lie to whoever you need to, but don't lie to yourself.

I still think alot has yet to come out about those events in December, in particular EJ "shooting" John. I've watched those scenes, and I didn't see EJ's gun discharge and I did see him look up immediately after the shots rang out. These are openings in the plot that can be used later on to show those events in a different light. I'm certainly not saying EJ's a choir boy, but I don't think he's evil incarnate either. :D

[Mander]

I consider EJ to be "obsessed" with Sami much the same as Stefano was "obsessed" with Marlena. I don't think either man knows what love is.

As far as Lucas goes, I honestly can't blame him for "taking back" his love many of the times. EX: Finding Sami in bed with Brandon. We have to remember what we saw is far from what Lucas knew was happening. Sure, Sami begged and pleaded but visual stimuli is a very powerful thing. I have to say that if I walked in on my fiancee and another woman (oh that I had one) I would be VERY hard pressed to not believe something happened - even if my mom was a manipulative schemer.

EX: STAN - That was one of Sami's many schemes that I never liked. It is totally out of character for Sami to just totally lash out at people who really never did anything to her - like Mimi. She was a little snide sometimes but I felt like they popped that in just for the storyline. Still, to find out your fiancee was pulling all of this on people and dressing like a man. Led you and your family through the desert to Tony. That would be hard to swallow as well.

(Most of that I chalk up to JER bad writing)

Lucas isn't a saint but I think that TPTB have "forgotten" that part of him in their eagerness to make him more of a good guy and Sami a bad girl. (I have never thought of Sami as a villainess.) I would love to see more of the old Lucas. The one who would plot and scheme with her to get what they wanted.

History or no, I find EJ demented and highly disturbing. Smelling Sami's hanky reminded me of a stalker not a man in love.

[SuperSami]

Um... I used to be a hardcore lumi fan all the way.. even when sami was still obsessed with austin a few years ago. [Like during the whole italy plot and whatever...]. I was very happy when they actually started getting along =P
But.. with time i started to resent lucas for letting sami fall every time and, well, kind of kicking her when she is down.
So i wanted to see some Ejami to make lucas get on his knees and beg for forgiveness :p
But After EJ shot sami's step father and raped her, that killed the pairing for me. [Especially since sami had been raped before, so it must be very painful for her.]
EJ claims to love sami who she is, but he doesnt. It's true some people are only there for sami when they like what she is doing, when she is "good", but EJ only wants her to be the way he see's her. He is just like everyone esle, but in "reverse". He doesn't want the real sami, he wants the bishie trouble maker sami [and as much as i love her my self, that doesnt mean he accepts who she is :P].
So yea... no Ejami for me ._.;


I have to agree with you as to EJ wanting Sami to be the way he sees her. At least Lucas, Austin and so on wanted Sami to be good for Sami's sake--they didn't want her self-destructing every five minutes. She was the one who always ended up hurt. EJ, wants her to embrace her bad side, consequences be damned. The truth of the matter is that Sami doesn't want to live a life of evil. She wants to do the right thing. While her methods are unconventional, she's does what she does not to hurt someone, but to get something she thinks she deserves. EJ just relishes adding on the pain. The Elvis and Sami pairing leaves no room for Sami to be who SHE wants to be. THe truth is, Sami love Lucas and her family--that's where her heart lies and belongs.

[poisonivy70]

I consider EJ to be "obsessed" with Sami much the same as Stefano was "obsessed" with Marlena. I don't think either man knows what love is.

As far as Lucas goes, I honestly can't blame him for "taking back" his love many of the times. EX: Finding Sami in bed with Brandon. We have to remember what we saw is far from what Lucas knew was happening. Sure, Sami begged and pleaded but visual stimuli is a very powerful thing. I have to say that if I walked in on my fiancee and another woman (oh that I had one) I would be VERY hard pressed to not believe something happened - even if my mom was a manipulative schemer.

Well, here's the problem I have with this - I understand the anger, I'd even understand the time needed to process, but there was nothing Sami was doing that could convince him that she would never do that to him and no opportunity given to her to explain what happened. No trust at all. He's always believed other people over Sami, and he's never given her the chance to respond, he just brushes her off and usually in the most cruel and humiliating way possible. It was only after she was able to get that tape that clearly showed his mother scheming against Sami that he accepted it. I'm sorry but it's the "I love you, but I'll never quite trust you" feel that I get from them that stops me from supporting them ever.


EX: STAN - That was one of Sami's many schemes that I never liked. It is totally out of character for Sami to just totally lash out at people who really never did anything to her - like Mimi. She was a little snide sometimes but I felt like they popped that in just for the storyline. Still, to find out your fiancee was pulling all of this on people and dressing like a man. Led you and your family through the desert to Tony. That would be hard to swallow as well.

(Most of that I chalk up to JER bad writing)

Lucas isn't a saint but I think that TPTB have "forgotten" that part of him in their eagerness to make him more of a good guy and Sami a bad girl. (I have never thought of Sami as a villainess.) I would love to see more of the old Lucas. The one who would plot and scheme with her to get what they wanted.

History or no, I find EJ demented and highly disturbing. Smelling Sami's hanky reminded me of a stalker not a man in love.


It's funny - when you see Sami or Lucas doing something "out of character" it's bad writing but the same chance isn't given to EJ and the bad writing choices made for his character. I say give the writers time and they can shine a new light on EJ and show what makes him tick.

I have always thought of Sami as a villainess, and she's great at it. Mind you, she has to get smarter about the schemes she plans, that's been my major complaint. I find villainous characters exciting and interesting. You never quite know which way they'll turn, but you want to watch all the same. And it certainly doesn't have to be the only side shown but they're considered villains because in the end, they are capable of treacherous acts and can be selfish and manipulative. Heroines may stumble, but they always strive to do what's right. Sami first strives to do what's best for Sami, and helps others on occasion.

As for EJ wanting only the bad Sami, I don't believe that to be the case. At least he's willing to accept both sides of her personality and doesn't ask her to change to suit him. I want her to let go of her obsession of recreating that perfect family, to accept herself for who she is and to stop apologizing for doing what comes naturally to her. She can only find happiness when she does that. But in the meantime, I can enjoy her drama onscreen :)

[#1days]

I also loved EJ and Sami's scenes yesterday. And I do believe that he loves her. I have seen him be tender to her recently and that's proof enough for me.

[lyonsfam6]

I have to agree with you as to EJ wanting Sami to be the way he sees her. At least Lucas, Austin and so on wanted Sami to be good for Sami's sake--they didn't want her self-destructing every five minutes. She was the one who always ended up hurt. EJ, wants her to embrace her bad side, consequences be damned. The truth of the matter is that Sami doesn't want to live a life of evil. She wants to do the right thing. While her methods are unconventional, she's does what she does not to hurt someone, but to get something she thinks she deserves. EJ just relishes adding on the pain. The Elvis and Sami pairing leaves no room for Sami to be who SHE wants to be. THe truth is, Sami love Lucas and her family--that's where her heart lies and belongs.

Sami doesn't know how to be honest and good...at least not for the long term. We have maybe a few days/weeks after she's confessed to whatever great scheme she just committed and then she's back into her old ways. The only reason why she isn't doing something underhanded with Lucas right now (and this point is totally debatable because I really believe that she is) is because the writers have created a different kind of drama for her to lie and blackmail her way through. It's the same song...different verse. It's the same version of Sami being played over again....AND IT'S WHY I LIKE HER SO MUCH!

There are to many "good" characters on DOOL right now and quite frankly, I think it's why the ratings are suffering. You can only have 1 or 2 "good" people tops for a soap to work. The rest of the characters have to be out for number 1. Those are the soaps that are a blast to watch.

[SuperSami]

Welll there are lots of ways to do good things--staying by Jack's side, trying to save him when they thought he had been shot, alerting the nurse to Kate bleeding to death in Lucas' hospital room, helping Lucas after Maggie died, helping free everyone in the war zone when it was in her best interest not to, helping Jamie, trying to save Carrie from Alan Harris, the list goes on.

Sami's always done good right along with her bad. Trouble is she's never acknowledged for it. There is a huge difference between being good and being a self righteous hypocrite. There is only one thing that Sami could do that would turn me off of her. We'll just have to see if the writers make that mistake.

[poisonivy70]

Welll there are lots of ways to do good things--staying by Jack's side, trying to save him when they thought he had been shot, alerting the nurse to Kate bleeding to death in Lucas' hospital room, helping Lucas after Maggie died, helping free everyone in the war zone when it was in her best interest not to, helping Jamie, trying to save Carrie from Alan Harris, the list goes on.

Sami's always done good right along with her bad. Trouble is she's never acknowledged for it. There is a huge difference between being good and being a self righteous hypocrite. There is only one thing that Sami could do that would turn me off of her. We'll just have to see if the writers make that mistake.


I've always seen Sami do good, but much of the time she's been the cause of the trouble in the first place. I agree she's a blend of good and evil, but in the end she'll never be completely good like she's trying to be now. I wouldn't want her any other way.

So what could turn you off of her?

[Thiroshag]

Did you guys see that episode when ej when his by himself toasts himself to been the father of sami baby. How amazing is james scott and ali sweeney they were robbed both should have been nominated for and emmy atleast! More and more i think this baby is ej lol. Does anyone know if she carries the baby to term?

[Twilight1]

I read a spoiler that either Willow or Sami loses their baby about 2 weeks ago and have read a new one where Willow miscarries. :( (Don't like her but that is sad regardless)

Sami is mean, vinidictive, deep, emotional, loving and loyal. She is everything and I like all her levels.