Watch Out Salem! Sami Will Do Anything To Get What She Wants...

[shakabigfoot]

So run for your lives!!! :eek:

So for me it is pretty much official. I knew Sami was always capable of terrible things and I love that about her. But cold blooded murder or attempted murder was a line I was fairly sure she wouldn't cross. Well, I was wrong. LOL

Gooooo Sami!!! I love how she fights for what she wants. That she will break any rule if the reason suits her and it is an end to a means. I love drama in my soap and Sami sure brings it in spades. I have always adored the evil doer inside of her and championed her on in her plans. I hate that she gets caught as much as she does. As an EJAMI fan I look forward to Sami and EJ hooking up and maybe he can teach her how to cover her tracks a bit better! ;)

But for me it is now official! Our girl Sami will do ANYTHING to get what she wants. So beware people of Salem. Whatever you do, don't ever get in the way of Sami getting what she wants! In other words run people, RUN!!! MUA, MUAHAHA, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :D

[Mander]

Not that I do condone muder but in the world of Soaps, EJ has left Sami with little choice. She's doing what she has to in order to protect her child. She's already seen him as a threat to Will and now he has more than once threatened to take her baby away from her, name him Stefano, and raise him to be like the man himself. I wish all mothers were as protective. (Please, no one go out and kill anyone!!) EJ has left her with little choice in this matter. It's kill or be killed.

[Thiroshag]

Who knew that someone can die from a tube of lippie , hey what if ejams ej wears some lip barm HA IM NOT TO WORRIE GORGEOUS EJ IS not GOING NO WEAR HIS THE ONLY REASON TO WATCH DOOL , I SO MISS CARRIE AND AUSTIN. I love sami i dont think she's sooo badd ilove that she does stuff that iwishi had da gutts to do. And ej will not be dyin...im sorry if im been 2 mean.

[shakabigfoot]

Few! SO Sami had a last minute change of heart??? That is just what I heard, the show hasn't aired for me yet...

Sami, Sami, Sami! Cold blooded murder. I can't believe you took it so far. She was going to kill someone rather than just tell the truth. (I LOVE IT!!! LMAO) You are such a naughty girl. :eek:

My poor beloved EJ, he is not going to be very pleased when he gets back. :D

(For those that don't know I tend to favor the villains in my soap. They create the storylines and make things happen. They are the movers and the shakers on a soap and I favor them. For example I like Phillip now when I never liked him before. I think he is being stupid about the whole Claire is my baby thing. LOL But I like his evil streak. When the "old" Phillip was around I never liked him until his last few weeks when he was getting all mean and nasty. LOL Sami has been my favorite since she entered the scene because from day one she has been a villain with a heart. Just my opinion. :) The issue I have with EJ is they are now writing him so one sided and they need to bring back the layers and the depth. James himself is doing a great job at bringing vaulerability, glimmers of sweetness and kindness to certain scenes though! Even if he is being written pure back and white.)

[SuperSami]

Good thing what Sami wants is Lucas! ;)

[Mander]

There you have the difference between Sami and a Dimera. She couldn't go through with it. She has a conscience. EJ doesn't think twice about hurting anyone - Sami included.

[SuperSami]

I'm not surprised at all that she couldn't go through with it. Sami isn't a murder. She doesn't have it in her to just kill for the sake of it or to solve her problems. If her family was in imminent danger, I can see her killing someone. Sami will never be a Dimera. She doesn't have what it takes--the coldbloodedness and she values her family far too much. Sami could never be a Dimera because Sami is, well, Sami.

[shakabigfoot]

I was glad to see some sence came to her. What really cracks me up is I don't think EJ is murderer.

I remember watching the John and EJ scene over and over. First of all when the gun fired he had a look of surprise on his face. Then he ran out...He didn't even stop to make sure that John was dead. Add to that there was only ONE shot fired yet John was shot twice. I don't think EJ killed Lexie or anything of the sort. In fact they are probably kicking it in some mansion together that is owned by the DiMera's having nookie as they are held "prisoner". I don't think EJ is a murderer. As far as the DiMera's and Stefano. Murder was never something that Stefano really worked with. It was to easy and not the least bit creative. Then you bring up Eve? Well EJ was accounted for the entire time. So he didn't kill Eve. Point being it looks like Sami came a lot closer than I have seen in a long time of out and out cold blooded murder. What is even MORE disturbing is she allowed herself to be manipulated into murder by someone and would choose murder over honesty. (Why she would listen to Celeste is beyond me!)

Don't get me wrong I love this side of Sami, but I like it better when her plans are hatched out of her own head. Right now she is just playing it to weak. I like when Sami isn't all victumy. All she would have to do is tell the truth. Yet she has no trust for Lucas and his "love", she likes being the local hero to her family and she will sell EJ down the river just to keep what she thinks she will loose. Sad really when he is the one person that understands what she is about and wants. Her hands are just a dirty as EJ's but she plays the innocent. That is just my opinoin, cold, straight forward and as upfront as I can bring it. Please let no one be offended for it is just my views on the situation and the black mailing going on between Sami and EJ.

[poisonivy70]

In the land of soaps, never say never ;)

Sami is willing to entertain the thought, she's willing to conspire to commit murder. Many instances she's had the option to go and tell the truth, but she chooses not to. Sami protects Sami. Even if she pulls back at the last moment, I believe it proves that she cares more for EJ than anything else.

And say what you will of the DiMeras, there has been a love of family there as well. Warped and twisted, but there nonetheless....and much less sanctimonious than the Bradys or Hortons are, especially when we look at Sami's case. She wouldn't be as gun shy about telling the truth if she hadn't been burned by her family so many times in the past....

Now I loves me a good villain, Shaka, but I love seeing a little bit of heart in there as well. James has done a phenomenal job of showing me that EJ has a vulnerability when it comes to Sami....he loves her, even if he's not sure what love is or how to express it well.....

Sami and EJ give me hope for more interesting DAYS to come.... :)

[shakabigfoot]

In the land of soaps, never say never ;)

Sami is willing to entertain the thought, she's willing to conspire to commit murder. Many instances she's had the option to go and tell the truth, but she chooses not to. Sami protects Sami. Even if she pulls back at the last moment, I believe it proves that she cares more for EJ than anything else.

And say what you will of the DiMeras, there has been a love of family there as well. Warped and twisted, but there nonetheless....and much less sanctimonious than the Bradys or Hortons are, especially when we look at Sami's case. She wouldn't be as gun shy about telling the truth if she hadn't been burned by her family so many times in the past....

Now I loves me a good villain, Shaka, but I love seeing a little bit of heart in there as well. James has done a phenomenal job of showing me that EJ has a vulnerability when it comes to Sami....he loves her, even if he's not sure what love is or how to express it well.....

Sami and EJ give me hope for more interesting DAYS to come.... :)

Agreed Pioson, that is why I said this in a couple of posts before yours.

"The issue I have with EJ is they are now writing him so one sided and they need to bring back the layers and the depth. James himself is doing a great job at bringing vaulerability, glimmers of sweetness and kindness to certain scenes though! Even if he is being written pure back and white."

There is nothing better than a layered, deep and complex villain with a soft side. IMO of course! But I agree with you babe!:D

[Thiroshag]

Have you guys checked out YOUtube i am seriously having a ejami love fesh.cause of it What if celeste kills elvis. Mmm... Ps hi sharka do you post at the nbc boards. :0>

[SuperSami]

Personally, I don't care about EJ, what his motives are or about this supposed softer side that viewers have yet to see. EJ continues to harm Sami and all those she loves and that's just unacceptable to me. EJ isn't a hero or even a villian I want to root for. Witty lines can't make up for pure evilness.

I do not in any way consider Sami weak. It takes courage and strength to sacrifice yourself for someone you love, especially when it's something as vile as rape. It takes strength to protect your family and it takes strength to do the right thing. Taking the easy way out and using power to control others is weakness, not strength. Sami's decision on Monday is the reason I love her and keep rooting for her.

[Mander]

I couldn't have said it better, Erica

[shakabigfoot]

IMO of course, her deciding to kill someone rather than tell the truth is weak. That she would endanger the baby she is carrying with gas fumes and poisoned lip stick rather than telling the truth is weak. I feel that her not taking a test to find out if the baby really is EJ's or not because she doesn't want to know the truth is weak. Her being SO afread that Lucas would just bail on her and her not realizing that she deserves a man that will stick by her and that loves her unconditionally is weak. So in my eyes Sami is acting and coming from a weak space at the moment. I do not find it courageous. I too love the character and have always rooted for her.

Again just the way I see it and only my opinon on the matter. I like it when Sami owns her power and is the force I know her to be. :)

[shakabigfoot]

Have you guys checked out YOUtube i am seriously having a ejami love fesh.cause of it What if celeste kills elvis. Mmm... Ps hi sharka do you post at the nbc boards. :0>
Hey Thiro, yes I do. I created the first ProEJami thread and named the couple. I have posted there for a while and it all started on NBC...Actually it all started with with the amazing chemistry of James and Ali! :D I am sure EJ will be ok. Don't worry sweetie. ;) (When you get a chance stop by a site called Forbidden Love or are you already a member? If not then when you get a chance, google the name EJAMI it will be one of the first sites listed. It is our EJAMI fan forum we had made for the fans of EJAMI. If you haven't been there yet I bet you would love it. You can help us with our campaings, we do lots of fun stuff over there and it is an EJAMI montage heaven!) Let me know if you need anything.


Hey Mander, thanks for resizing my banner for me! I haven't had a chance to load it yet. But thank you very much!

[SuperSami]

But this isn't about EJ or Lucas. It's about Sami and her own character. Sami can hem and haw about doing terrible thing, like what Tony would have wanted her to do in Iraq, which she decided she couldn't, and what Celeste wants her to do in that cabin. It's ultimately about the choices Sami makes and why she makes them that matters, because she doesn't make them for men, but her own soul There is a line she cannot and will not cross. no matter how it may benefit her. Heck, she couldn't even let Kate die when the opportunity was laid at her feet. That isn't weakness, that's strength.

As for not telling the truth, perhaps those nasty little threats being thrown her way by a man who has already tried to kill members of her family and threatened her son have something to do with it. Is it fear? Sure but look what she is enduring to save those she loves.

Sami rocks!

[shakabigfoot]

I understand what you are saying SS. I was just replying to your comment that she was acting couragous through her actions and attempting to kill EJ. ;) I am not commenting about her sleeping with EJ to save Lucas...But the other things. :)

Yes Sami does rock. :D

[SuperSami]

Oh, I think you misunderstand. I think it's more couragous NOT to kill EJ. She's totally being Sami and true to herself instead of being what someone else wants her to become. THAT takes courage.

[poisonivy70]

Great posts Shaka! I agree with you, I know it's shocking...:) Sami will continue to lie because she's saving herself. Her love of family is there, but she's also betrayed them when it's suited her purposes. If she was so concerned with saving her family, she would never have told Ej about her dad's investigation and Shawn's part in it. If she was concerned with saving any one else's skin other than her own, she would have told Lucas a long time ago, but she hasn't because it's not in her nature to think to be honest first. Just when she has no choice....

Max said this in relation to Chelsea, but I really love it for Sami. I would also like Sami to stand up and take responsibility for her own actions, to be her own hero, that way no one else can disappoint her.

[SuperSami]

Wow, what a harsh view of Sami.

I have to disagree with your assessment. EJ has threatened to harm her family, and given what he's already done, she's seeing her actions as the lesser of two evils.

Sami in the past has often acted for the benefit of others, rather than her own interests. Some recent events include her not doing Tony's bidding in Iraq. She could not hurt anyone there, and ended up saving them, even though she knew it was all going to come tumbling down on her--to her detriment. She also saved Kate's life, when it would have been so much easier to let her bleed to death and be out of her life. And then there is Sami's saving Lucas' life. That didn't save her own skin, it saved his.

Edited because I forgot another example--Victor. At the coronation, Sami and Brandon found out about the hit on Victor. Sami, having just gone through the Italy fiasco, could have let Victor bite the farm. She didn't. She told Brandon to warn Victor because she didn't want anyone dying because of her. Again, she had nothing to gain and let yet another enemy survive.

[shakabigfoot]

Oh, I think you misunderstand. I think it's more couragous NOT to kill EJ. She's totally being Sami and true to herself instead of being what someone else wants her to become. THAT takes courage.
LOL Now that I agree with! :D

[poisonivy70]

Wow, what a harsh view of Sami.

I have to disagree with your assessment. EJ has threatened to harm her family, and given what he's already done, she's seeing her actions as the lesser of two evils.

Sami in the past has often acted for the benefit of others, rather than her own interests. Some recent events include her not doing Tony's bidding in Iraq. She could not hurt anyone there, and ended up saving them, even though she knew it was all going to come tumbling down on her--to her detriment. She also saved Kate's life, when it would have been so much easier to let her bleed to death and be out of her life. And then there is Sami's saving Lucas' life. That didn't save her own skin, it saved his.

Edited because I forgot another example--Victor. At the coronation, Sami and Brandon found out about the hit on Victor. Sami, having just gone through the Italy fiasco, could have let Victor bite the farm. She didn't. She told Brandon to warn Victor because she didn't want anyone dying because of her. Again, she had nothing to gain and let yet another enemy survive.

I guess we'll agree to disagree - I don't think I'm being harsh at all, simply honest. Sami's always protected her interests first. I've never said she doesn't have a heart, and hasn't done good things, but she's just more likely to cover her own butt first...I've never considered Sami a murderer, but I'm not blind to what she is capable of. As for the lesser of two evils, I still think that would be telling Lucas, and having him support her through this, as opposed to betraying her family, and contemplating killing someone.

She couldn't do Tony's bidding in Iraq, but she did give drugs to John. She saved Kate's life after she thought about leaving her to bleed to death, and almost did. She saved Victor, but that didn't stop her from blackmailing him and causing him to have a stroke.

That's one of the most fascinating things about her, is her ability to do something outrageous, some cruel, something evil, but she will come right back then and do something good for someone else. It's the many facets of her character that I've enjoyed watching these years...

[shakabigfoot]

Poison, poetically put and I so understand what you are saying. In fact it is all of these things that has made Sami so popular. That she can do such horrible things and then turn around and do something so thoughtful. Perhaps this is why fans are so devided on if the character is a villain or not. To me it seems clear that the character is a villain and is there to propel the storylines forward (as you have so magnificently pointed out) and going to extremes to secure her desire. However, many see the character as making just mistakes and that she in no way reaches the "villain" equevelent. (Of course thats when I talk about the awards she has recieved as best villainess. My need for validation and to prove my point. LMAO) But in all honesty I can see how the two such varing opinions exist. When they come together perhaps they make the perfect soap character? The character that can do anything and yet still be loved and adored by the fans. Now that is powerful character indeed!