EJ's motive revealed (spoiler)

[Mander]

http://boards.sonypictures.com/soaps/showthread.php?t=89274

Big surprise - it's not parenthood. EJ is just vile to "try" to get Sami pregnant just to take the stem cells from her baby while in the meantime shooting John to steal his kidney! Just when I hought he couldn't get any worse! Absolutely dispicable!

[CanuckDaysfan]

Not a surprise at all. The only thing that rapist creep loves is Stefano's hand.

[Mander]

lol, I really can't wait to see the rest of Stefano! Salem has a thing for Dimera "hands" I think.

[aims876]

Wow. I'm shocked.:rolleyes: LOL ... lumi fans haven't been saying that for awhile or anything :cool:
Still looking forward to all the Dimeras showing up and Mr. and Mrs. Roberts tackling them together.:D

[Mander]

I'm not positive about Stem cells but I thought stem cells came from a "dead" embryo/fetus. Which would involve killing Sami's baby. Like I said, I'm not really "up to date" on that stuff so maybe someone who knows more about it can tell me.

edit:
Okay, I guess someone told me you can get them from a placenta but with a baby probably about 5 months at the time this spoiler seems to take place- I think that's pretty dangerous to do and definitely very reckless! To me that shows that EJ wants those cells and doesn't care about the baby's life. Of course, this is assuming it's his baby tho I am still of the belief that in the end it will be Lucas's! Sheffer won't let us down now :)

[marylina]

I knew right from the beginning that he was using her as an incubator for something and now we know why.

He is just sick.

[Mander]

I agree. EJ has never cared about Sami or the baby. I'm of the opinion that it will eventually be revealed in the great Brady/Dimera fued that he "chose" Sami for this because she was a Brady and Roman and Marlena's daughter which in the past have been "big" factors in Stefano's plans. Afterall, EJ knew all about Sami before he ever met her.

[Thiroshag]

I hate this. Why all this ej bashing. I read somewhere that the ej raping stuff wasn even written in2 the script and it. It just sami account of what happen, if she didnt want to sleep w/ him she could have said no and dealth wit the aftermat.I forgot sami doesn do dat silly me I could be wrong but didnt they not even show the 'rape' I dont think the baby has to b dead. Come on now this is a soap dont you know facts get thrown out da window.

[CanuckDaysfan]

I hate this. Why all this ej bashing. I read somewhere that the ej raping stuff wasn even written in2 the script and it. It just sami account of what happen, if she didnt want to sleep w/ him she could have said no and dealth wit the aftermat.I forgot sami doesn do dat silly me I could be wrong but didnt they not even show the 'rape' I dont think the baby has to b dead. Come on now this is a soap dont you know facts get thrown out da window.

Where did you read it? Can you cite your sources?

Numerous people from the show, including Ali, James & Bryan have all referred to it as "rape", many times in interviews now. But of course you don't have to believe it. It's not like I'm kidnapping you at gunpoint, driving you to the middle of nowhere, threatening the lives of your loved ones or anything.


edited to add:

I'm assuming you didn't see the episode, or even clips, but here's a few screencaps from before and after. You're right they didn't show the actual deed, why would they? Rape is something that has happened and continues to happen to a large number of people. IMO, out of sensitivity for victims, they kept the scenes as brief as possible. Ali is such a talented performer that no doubt was left in my mind what had happened to Sami. To suggest otherwise is rather insulting to her, don't you think?

These two are at the beginning of the rape. Sami sure doesn't look ecstatic, does she? It definitely wasn't the "night of love" that Elvis seems to think it was.
http://i4.tinypic.com/4kkrkw1.jpg

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And this one is from afterwards. Elvis is in bliss, Sami is in near shock. The only reason she submitted to Elvis was to save Lucas' life. Period. It's called coercion, and sex by coercion is rape.
http://i7.tinypic.com/4mmchp4.jpg

[Thiroshag]

placenta is what they throw away once the baby is born. Its not dangerous it can b freezed in some cases. Eps if a child is really ill and needs help the parents have another baby. When the baby is born they take the
Placenta and use that to make the other child better. Its harmless to the baby. I think after 5 months it can still b used. Oooh does mean its ej baby cos wont the baby dna b different if its lucas making the cells useless.

[CanuckDaysfan]

If they wait til birth to harvest the placenta, there's no problem. It doesn't sound like they'll be waiting the 5 months though. Stefano needs those stem cells NOW. I wouldn't put it past Elvis to try and get what he needs in the next few weeks. He's made it abundantly clear (by terrifying Sami to the point of hospilization) that he doesn't care if the baby lives or dies, or Sami either for that matter.

[SuperSami]

Last time I checked this wasn't an EJ fan site. We don't like a man that blackmails, kills, maims and rapes and then shows not one iota of remorse.

As for the stem cells, we've known for the longest time that is what EJ is after. I wouldn't be surprised of his injection in the hospital wasn't an attempt to make her miscarry, but time will tell.

[Mander]

This is Ali's site and so we do have fans of Lumi and fans of EJAMI. That's fine and everyone is entitled to express their opinions. I do not see anyone bashing EJ. Canuck makes a valid point that Alison, Bryan, and James Scott himself have all referred to this act as "rape." Clearly, that's what it was intended to be from the shows view point and this has not been misconstrued from fans. Thirosag, you are more than welcome to express as well as defend your opinion but please don't accuse others of bashing when they are only doing the same. Yes, I'm a LUMI fan but I try to be very fair in all of this. As far as the placenta goes and the comments I did make I based this on the fact that at the time of the "spoiler" the baby is only 4 1/2-5 months along. The baby NEEDS that placenta for another 5 months just to live. After the full term birth is a new story all together.

I will be watching this thread and if it continues into a negative spiral from either side it will be closed out of respect for Alison. Thank you all for your cooperation.

[Thiroshag]

. I just find the whole 'rape' hard to believe.Not even 48 hours of being 'raped' she's in bed w/ lucas. It more ofand allege rape. In my opinion i think part of why it was not shown was left for interpretation. By us fans. If i have offend you im am really sorry .

[Mander]

Everything in life is open to interpretation by every individual. Nothing is black and white and no 2 people think the same. In this instance, most people I've seen agree it was rape. I've even seen EJAMI fans (not all and I speak for no one) who have been upset that the writers had EJ "rape" Sami. Sami loved and trusted Lucas. There is no reason in the world to think it was wrong of her to be in bed with him later. Remember, Sami has been through rape before (which incidently wasn't shown in its entirety either) and it was Lucas she turned to then too - albeit after a longer time. Still, I think it's wrong of anyone to comment on what is considered "appropriate" behavior following a rape until you've walked a mile in a rape victims shoes - fortunately, I have not. However, I would put myself in Sami's place and think on it. What if "someone" were threatening to allow my "loved one" to die and I could save them if I permitted them to "have sex" with me. In my mind there is no choice in the matter. I would do anything I had to in order to save my loved one and I would like to think most people would agree. To me, that equals manipulative forced intimiacy and that is rape.

http://soaptalkscoops.proboards56.com/index.cgi?board=daysnews&action=display&thread=1178214086&page=1

You may also want to read this interview with James Scott if you haven't already. He indicates that writers "dropped the ball" on the rape storyline - meaning it was rape and they writers didn't handle it correctly.

TVG: After EJ raped Sami, were you worried about your future on the soap? And why isn’t Days playing out the fallout of the rape?

JS: I would be lying if I said I didn’t worry about my future on the soap. I don’t think they handled the rape very well, and I’ll tell you why. EJ raped Sami, and then afterwards, he’s hanging out in her house — alone with her. It’s irresponsible on so many levels. However, had it been handled well, I think it would have been an interesting story choice. Now the story focus has shifted to her pregnancy and the classic soap story of paternity. Having said that, I chose to believe that EJ is in love with Samantha — he just can’t communicate it.

[CanuckDaysfan]

. I just find the whole 'rape' hard to believe.Not even 48 hours of being 'raped' she's in bed w/ lucas. It more ofand allege rape. In my opinion i think part of why it was not shown was left for interpretation. By us fans. If i have offend you im am really sorry .

Unfortunately I've come across a great number of posts using her intimate relations with Lucas so soon afterwards as an explanation for why Sami couldn't possibly have been raped, and it saddens me greatly. It's a stereotype. Not everyone reacts the same way to everything. Setting the rape aside for a moment, let me give you an example of different reactions to a terrible event:

5 years ago I watched my mother pass away from cancer. On the night she died my dad, my sister and were all called to the cancer clinic. My sister got that first and was already in tears because my mom was gone. My dad shed a few as well, but I shed none, even when I went in to say goodbye. I continued to shed none through the funeral arrangements and the service itself, and for that matter, it wasn't until Mother's Day came around 5 months later that I broke down completely and cried. My sister on the other hand, cried daily for the first month or two but eventually worked through her grieving. Now, whose reaction would be the "stereotypical" one? I can answer that: my sister's. I had numerous people ask me why I wouldn't cry (as if I was choosing not to do so deliberately). I'm sure more than a few people who didn't know me well, probably even thought I was cold and heartless because it appeared to them that I wasn't grieving in the societal correct way. Little did they know that I was grieving, deeply, but I was a master at keeping it hidden inside - that's just the way I am.

As for Sami, some people react to rape by withdrawing, some choose to mentally block it out and use their closeness to their loved one to do it. Sami did not hesitate to be intimate with Lucas, that's right, but what that tells me more than anything is that he is the man she loves and trusts completely. Their souls are so well connected that she could never block him out.

[Mander]

Stereotyping in ANY situation is never a good thing. That was a wonderful example, Norma. Working in a hospital, I see people deal with grief, illness, and disabilities in remarkably different ways every day. Like I said before, never judge another until you've walked a mile in their shoes.

[SuperSami]

I have no interest in seeing a rape on my screen As outraged as fans are with the aftermath and Sami's obvious pain, graphically portraying it would have been just too much, especially for all the Days viewers that are themselves victims of sexual assault. Days was wise not to go into details. They had an audience to be sensitive to.

As for whether or not it was rape, the fact is Sami wouldn't have submitted to EJ if Lucas' life wasn't on the line. That is not willingly having sex and that makes it rape. Elvis was a pig for even demanding it of her and I'm constantly amazed that he gets a free ride for even suggesting that. No offense intended to anyone but I'm just explaining how I feel

[qot265]

I'm personally a fan of ejami, (particularly as this storyline and the Sami character herself are the main reasons I watch Days) I think Ali and James have really great onscreen chemistry. But I'm completely creeped out by the rape story line. I agree that being coerced into sex in any way is rape, and to treat it as anthing else is ethically wrong (thankfully, this is tv show... which is why I'd like ej to and sami to eventually get together). Also, Ej's refusal to acknowledge that Sami genuinely wants him out of her life is psychopathic and downright creepy, stalker territory. He's lucky he's so goddamn hot, and the both actors have so much chemistry- because otherwise, I don't know how people could watch without being unbelievably skeeved out.

That said, I'm completely up for either a sweet ej-sami union in the future (with a reformed ej, and lucas out of the way), or a super-evil union (I reckon stockholm syndrome would be an awesome excuse for Sami to go Dimera). Either way, I would be completely entertained.

[CanuckDaysfan]

I'm personally a fan of ejami, (particularly as this storyline and the Sami character herself are the main reasons I watch Days) I think Ali and James have really great onscreen chemistry. But I'm completely creeped out by the rape story line. I agree that being coerced into sex in any way is rape, and to treat it as anthing else is ethically wrong (thankfully, this is tv show... which is why I'd like ej to and sami to eventually get together). Also, Ej's refusal to acknowledge that Sami genuinely wants him out of her life is psychopathic and downright creepy, stalker territory. He's lucky he's so goddamn hot, and the both actors have so much chemistry- because otherwise, I don't know how people could watch without being unbelievably skeeved out.

That said, I'm completely up for either a sweet ej-sami union in the future (with a reformed ej, and lucas out of the way), or a super-evil union (I reckon stockholm syndrome would be an awesome excuse for Sami to go Dimera). Either way, I would be completely entertained.

You just hit on why I could never enjoy watching an ejami pairing. Elvis totally creeps me out. And for some reason I just can't stomach calling a rapist, salker, murderer "hot". (I agree JS is handsome - most daytime actors are, but when I look at Elvis, all I see is a vile, contemptable being).
Sami going super-evil would be the ultimate rape of her character, and I know I'd never be able to watch it (sorry Ali ;), but you know I call it like I see it), and as far as Lucas out of the way, he's my favorite guy on the show, so I know I wouldn't stand for that happening either. I suppose Elvis could be redeemed, but for it to be believable it would have to take years to happen. Sami & Lucas will be grandparents by the time that happens.

[shakabigfoot]

Stem cells come from unborn fetus', placenta AND the ambilical chord. Now adays many parents actually save the ambilicol chord for when the government opens their minds or doctors work in the name of silence against laws as they have for HUNDREDS of years for the betterment of mankind. Point being there are ways to do such things WITHOUT killing a baby.

EJ and Sami were wonderful today. EJ does obviously care about the baby and Sami as he is torn between them and the family he has known, loved and been brainwashed into supporting since his birth. You guys will see just what EJ will do and take on to protect both the baby AND Sami. Although my guess is that it is a test of EJ's loyalties to his family. For not even the DiMeras are as vile as the kill an innocent child. In fact I am sure Stefano would be revolted. Stefano is a bad, bad, bad man (who I adore and am SO excited they brought Joe back, the one and only Stefano) BUT he has always had a certain class and style to him.

I continue to be and always will be an EJAMI fan. James and Ali's scenes continue to be amazing and have so much power and energy to them. I believe after resent ratings TPTB may give EJAMI the chance they have always deserved. IMO

EJ is not the vile and decreped creater so many seem to think and Sami herself, even being through what she has (rape/nonrape/mental rape) knows this. You will see and the scenes today and coming up will open up a whole new can of worms.

I can't wait for this summer and what is coming...

VIVA LA REVOLT! :D

[Mander]

First, I'd like to post a disclaimer. I am at work at 6 AM starting a 13 hour shift, I'm sick, and on a million meds so anything weird that comes out of my mouth is not my responsibility but that of my physician who gave me these meds:)

Miracle of miracles! Shaka and I agree on something. It's great to have Joe back!! Stefano is the "true" DOOL villain and even though we won't see him until June 6th (I think) I was so excited to see his face in the promo!!

Stem Cells: No one is disputing that stem cells is an approved or safe method. In fact, my sister is about to give birth in a little over a month and that's all you read about. The problem is "taking" those cells before the fetus is even old enough to survive on it's own if there is a problem. Assuming that a non- Dimera pawn doctor was doing this procedure there would still be risk to the fetus.

EJ: For the sake of arguement, if EJ DOES care about the baby's well being I still have issues with the fact that Lucas, Sami, and Celeste have all had to beat him over the head with the fact that he "could" be the baby's father and should care about it NUMEROUS times. (I say could because even if I did have faith in voodoo -Celeste's track record is NOT the best. In fact, has she ever actually been right? Even when it appeared she would be it all raveled out in the end - a la seriel killer)

The Dimera's have a well documented history of mind games. Tony, Stefano, Peter, and Kristen have all at some point or another been on the "good side" and "done the right thing." Usually to give people a false sense of trust in order to get them on their side. I see no reason why Elvis will be any different. If he is - great - but it'll take a LOT more than a couple scenes like this to convince me. He's endangered Sami and the baby for months on end by threatening her - even making her think she was dying when she was already in danger of losing the baby. Sorry - it'll take a LOT more than this.

Ratings: While I think we'd all love to see the ratings up I think it's going to be difficult. So many women arne't "housewives" anymore and tape a show, watch in on other venues such as soapnet or online with soapcity. It's a shame that those don't count into the ratings. I know I'm one of them who rarely if ever has the opportunity to sit down at 1pm and watch a show for an hour. That said, from what I've seen of ratings - and I don't have them here in front of me but I know there are people who do and post them for others so feel free to step in - The ratings have gone up slightly on LUMI days and have a tendency to drop on EJ days. That said, I think there is a major problem with EJ - Barring those who are die hard EJ/JS fans I think a lot of fans have their belly full of him. For months he's been the ONLY bad guy and has had his hand in every single person's storyline. (When does JS sleep!?!?!) As a rule, I think many DOOL watchers are sick of him.

EJ has raped Sami. EJ has threatened her for months on end. EJ made her think he was going to kill her while she was already in danger of miscarrage. EJ has used Celeste to play with her mind and make her contemplate murder which tore her up. EJ has stalked her for months. Now, he's kidnapped her. Why would Sami know he's not vile?? Sorry - even our local police wouldn't tolerate that and we have some dandies let me tell you! Roman could get a job here!!

[CanuckDaysfan]

Elvis is most definitely a vile decrepid creature. He is a rapist. He even said the words while in New Orleans. Not only did he physically rape Sami back in December, but he continues to mentally rape her every time he interacts with her. And setting Sami aside, what about his torture of Steve? I would definitely call that prolonged mental rape.
As for Elvis caring about the baby, it's not his first instinct too. The man does not know the meaning of love, and I would fear for the life of any spawn of his. A man who truly loved his unborn child would not chloroform its mother and take her to his evil brother, knowing full well what said evil brother intends to do. Oh, he rescued her, you argue? Well, the only reason he had to rescue her was because he put her in the situation in the first place! :mad: The scenes from the past week are nothing more than Tony & Elvis working together to get Sami to let her guard down around Elvis, so that he can swoop in and steal what he wants. Elvis has not learned the meaning of love, nor will he ever.


I have been one of the ones following the ratings for months now. Ratings do not rise on so-called "ejami" days. They drop. They do however rise when Elvis is nowhere to be found. As I mentioned in another thread here, I see enough rapists, murderers and stalkers on the news every night. I have no wish to watch one every day on my show, and I know I'm not alone in that.

[Mander]

I would much have prefered to see EJ rape Sami and then Sami dealing with the aftermath in a realistic, educational way. The harrassment that is allowed to go on and the stalking by EJ - I would imagine - is offending to people who may have been raped. I think the writers dropped the ball with this and in fact - James even agreed with me on that point in one of his interviews.

[CanuckDaysfan]

I would much have prefered to see EJ rape Sami and then Sami dealing with the aftermath in a realistic, educational way. The harrassment that is allowed to go on and the stalking by EJ - I would imagine - is offending to people who may have been raped. I think the writers dropped the ball with this and in fact - James even agreed with me on that point in one of his interviews.

They definitely dropped the ball on this one. I'm not saying that the performers involved haven't done a good job with what they've been given, they have, especially Ali & Bry with the talk after the wedding, but the show (and daytime in general for that matter) wonders why viewers are turning away, this is one of the main reasons. Sexual assault is a serious issue, one that has touched the lives of many of the audience members. It deserves to be taken seriously and handled properly in the storylines. If the writers aren't willing to do that, then they need to find a new plot device to use instead.

[Mander]

I completely agree with you, Norma. I am not a fan of EJ but I think James Scott has done a marvelous job. DOOL is actually very fortunate to have a first class set of actors/actresses. Even if I hate the character almost EVERYONE there makes me enjoy watching them. Another example of what you're talking about was Philip losing his leg in Iraq. I think that was mishandled as well - although different writer back then.

[qot265]

I completely agree that the rape storyline has hardly been dealt with responsibly, although again not for lack of trying on the actors' parts. However, I do feel for the writers- i.e. obviously they needed this paternity issue with the baby for the sake of the plot, but they couldn't really have Sami betray Lucas, given that would be outside her usual behaviour. The only thing that I can say to the credit of the writers on this issue, is that it's somewhat conceivable that Sami would not necessarily be afraid of EJ given that he didn't physically intimidate her, rather he used his considerable leverage to make her do what he wanted. Thus back in the surroundings of her everyday life, it could be possible to consider Sami as yes- mentally violated, but mostly angry as opposed to intimidated... Still, you'd think the writers could have saved themselves some trouble and gone down the usual drunk/drugged scenario to achieve getting Sami in EJ's bed. Oh well. On ther other hand... having EJ rape Sami kind of kills two birds with one stone by 1)showing new depths of evil in EJ, 2) having confusion about the paternity of the baby.

I've already voiced my ejami love- but I really wouldn't want it fulfilled in the near future- if Lumi follow the usual break-up/reunite pattern of a usual soap couple, then surely there is room for an entertaining diversion (in the far away future) for EJ and Sami? Is it too much to ask- I just want a diversion, dammit!

Lastly, as much as I'm enjoying the EJ character, I have to agree- EJ's recent defense of Sami at the last minute was hardly heroic... however I'm enjoying the possible depth/complexity of the character (if genuine) and I don't think reformation is completely out of the question.

[CanuckDaysfan]

I completely agree that the rape storyline has hardly been dealt with responsibly, although again not for lack of trying on the actors' parts. However, I do feel for the writers- i.e. obviously they needed this paternity issue with the baby for the sake of the plot, but they couldn't really have Sami betray Lucas, given that would be outside her usual behaviour. The only thing that I can say to the credit of the writers on this issue, is that it's somewhat conceivable that Sami would not necessarily be afraid of EJ given that he didn't physically intimidate her, rather he used his considerable leverage to make her do what he wanted. Thus back in the surroundings of her everyday life, it could be possible to consider Sami as yes- mentally violated, but mostly angry as opposed to intimidated... Still, you'd think the writers could have saved themselves some trouble and gone down the usual drunk/drugged scenario to achieve getting Sami in EJ's bed. Oh well. On ther other hand... having EJ rape Sami kind of kills two birds with one stone by 1)showing new depths of evil in EJ, 2) having confusion about the paternity of the baby.

I've already voiced my ejami love- but I really wouldn't want it fulfilled in the near future- if Lumi follow the usual break-up/reunite pattern of a usual soap couple, then surely there is room for an entertaining diversion (in the far away future) for EJ and Sami? Is it too much to ask- I just want a diversion, dammit!

Lastly, as much as I'm enjoying the EJ character, I have to agree- EJ's recent defense of Sami at the last minute was hardly heroic... however I'm enjoying the possible depth/complexity of the character (if genuine) and I don't think reformation is completely out of the question.

Good post!

I know that soap rapists can be redeemed, but it's definitely not something that can happen over night or even within a few weeks. Days successfully redeemed Jack after he raped Kayla, but it took years to accomplish, and also the presence of a blonde Horton virgin lol. Even then, Kayla was never entirely comfortable being around Jack, especially if Steve wasn't there. Jack wasn't even comfortable in his own skin for years after the rape, and constantly felt that he didn't deserve any happiness in his life after what he did. He was truly sorry about what he did to Kayla. That storyline was beautifully written and executed, and is the standard against which I measure all attempts at redeeming a soap rapist. A quickie redemption for Elvis, who is imo, a sociopath, just doesn't cut it. If the writers decide they want to redeem him, it's going to take a long, long, long time. He hasn't just hurt Sami; he's harmed practically everyone in town. I can't forget about that, and it would take a miracle for him to be redeemed in my eyes. And while Sami may decide to forgive him down the road, I just can't see her ever having an intimate relationship with him unless the writers completely remove her brain. Stepford Sami is not my idea of entertainment, so if that day ever comes to pass, I won't be around to watch.

[Mander]

Norma we must be jiving today or something. Could be the cold meds? :p I was reading that post and thinking of JAck and Kayla too! I didn't watch DOOL then and I remember the first time I heard Jack had raped Kayla I was shocked!!! It's still hard to believe. Jack is such a happy go lucky goofball:) It's definitely not out of the question but won't be anytime soon. It took Jack's character years.

Regarding an interlude- I know in the realm of soaps even super couples have interludes. Hope and Patrick, Marlena and NonRoman Roman/Dr North, Although these interludes were yucky! Jennifer and Peter Blake. However, after waiting 15 years for a LUMI wedding - and the writers do know this - and as many times as we've been let down, I don't think they'll be having any interludes anytime soon.

As for the storyline - sorry - those writers really need to come up with SOMETHING besides who's the daddy! Oy!

[SuperSami]

Besides everything already mentioned, I don't want Sami with a Dimera for an additional reason--they have absolutely no respect for women. Look at their history with them. And you want to talk about control issues? EJ has no problem threatening to take away Sami's child (which is legally Lucas' BTW). If GF forbid they ever got together, that child would be used as a pawn to keep Sami in line. Disagree with EJ, he'll threaten her with taking away the child. She will never have peace of mind with a Dimera. The only person who deserves that fate is Kate.

[Ponz5]

If Elvis were to protect Sami knowing that the baby she's carrying is Lucas', that would be a step on the path to redemption. But there's nothing selfless about his actions now. He's obsessed with Sami and believes that baby ties her to him for life. Are we supposed to soften our views on Elvis because he wants to safeguard the fruits of the RAPE? If so, I'm not buying what the writers are selling.

[Tanyag9]

They definitely dropped the ball on this one. I'm not saying that the performers involved haven't done a good job with what they've been given, they have, especially Ali & Bry with the talk after the wedding, but the show (and daytime in general for that matter) wonders why viewers are turning away, this is one of the main reasons. Sexual assault is a serious issue, one that has touched the lives of many of the audience members. It deserves to be taken seriously and handled properly in the storylines. If the writers aren't willing to do that, then they need to find a new plot device to use instead.

Dropped the ball indeed.
Sami was already raped once in the past, and throughout the whole story line this wasnt mentioned even once. Lame!

[CanuckDaysfan]

Dropped the ball indeed.
Sami was already raped once in the past, and throughout the whole story line this wasnt mentioned even once. Lame!

Actually it was mentioned by Sami when she talked to Celeste, and Lucas mentioned it when Sami finally told him the truth, but other than that it was ignored.

And the fact that this resulted in a WTD storyline really bugs me. I mean Sami was given the "morning after" pill after Alan raped her, and she worked in the hospital for quite awhile and should know the options available to rape victims. Knowing that Elvis' goal was to "plant his seed", after making sure that Lucas was going to be okay she should have been heading for the doctor (or if she lived where I live, the pharmacy). Days had the opportunity to make this an informative story, and also an angst filled one for Sami & Lucas, but instead they turned it into typical soap fare.

[Mander]

I agree with you, Norma. I think after we saw the "Green Wedding" it shows that daytime TV in general can be informative as well as entertaining. With a problem like rape that affects so many thousands of people (women AND men) this story could have been so much better. A definite kudos to all the actors involved. They take the work they are given and breath life into their characters as best they can and in many cases it's THEIR work and not the stories that bring us back time and again. From day 1 I've been a fan of Bryan and Ali. No, I haven't always liked the storylines. I hated the fighting but I loved their characters and the passion they put behind them. I've continued to watch DOOL - for some time only watching clips of lumi - because I enjoy their work. I really feel that the with Hogan at the wheel they show has a chance to get back to the good old days and are taking the right steps by bringing back Stefano - and john!! Patch, Kayla, etc. We need some of the old favorite classics. Dool needs to go back to it's roots imo. But despite my little mini rant here I say again - everyone on the show from the actress who plays Willow (sorry I don't know her name) - a character I really don't like at all to Ali playing my favorite character - all do a great job!

[CanuckDaysfan]

I agree with you, Norma. I think after we saw the "Green Wedding" it shows that daytime TV in general can be informative as well as entertaining. With a problem like rape that affects so many thousands of people (women AND men) this story could have been so much better. A definite kudos to all the actors involved. They take the work they are given and breath life into their characters as best they can and in many cases it's THEIR work and not the stories that bring us back time and again. From day 1 I've been a fan of Bryan and Ali. No, I haven't always liked the storylines. I hated the fighting but I loved their characters and the passion they put behind them. I've continued to watch DOOL - for some time only watching clips of lumi - because I enjoy their work. I really feel that the with Hogan at the wheel they show has a chance to get back to the good old days and are taking the right steps by bringing back Stefano - and john!! Patch, Kayla, etc. We need some of the old favorite classics. Dool needs to go back to it's roots imo. But despite my little mini rant here I say again - everyone on the show from the actress who plays Willow (sorry I don't know her name) - a character I really don't like at all to Ali playing my favorite character - all do a great job!

Believe me, the only things that kept me watching through most of 2005/2006 were Ali's & Bry's performances (Matt's too in those brief periods when Jack was alive). Well that, and the little game that I play with the writers (Reflections) lol.

[Mander]

and boy were you a trooper with those clips! :D What us loyalists don't do for our favorite actors/characters eh ;)