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RussianBat
12-15-2007, 06:12 AM
Alyssa - the Xmas Present of the Saint Nikolai? :)
Alyssa Milano was born at the Saint Nikolai holy holiday! :)
Saint Nicolas? You celebrate the holiday of the Russian Saint? Yes, it is in his honour the Santa character IS around the world nowadays!
St. Nicholas the Wonderworker, archbishop of Myra in Lycia (345): (1) Prov. 10:7, 6; 3:13-16; 8:6, 32, 34, 4, 12, 14, 17, 5-9; 1:23; (2) Prov. 10:31-11:12; (3) Wis. 4:7-15. Matins: John 10:9-16. Liturgy: Heb. 13:17-21; Luke 6:17-23) Heb. 10:1-18
Mark 8:30-34
Nativity Fast
Fish, wine and oil allowed.
6 December/19 December for Russia (new style).
http://days.pravoslavie.ru/en/Days/20071206.htm
(The Christmas for old style 25 December, new style 7 January. For the Easter the Holy Fire of the Saint Spirit has given as the miracle in Holy Land FOR THE NEW STYLE! Not for the old style!)
Of money gift to the poor young women for the marriage was given in the sock, we have Xmas as nowadays!
The Saint Nikolai Wonderworker:) is in honour even for Mussulmans and Pagans.
Holy Protection Russian Orthodox Church .
2049 Аrgylе Аvе. Lоs Аngеlеs, Cаlifоrniа, 90068, USА.
P.S.: Alyssa, you should delete your tattoes. God creates you pure and beautiful! Alyssa Milano or any other human being with tattoo should confess in the 3rd churches in this sin, and read the prayer from the "print", "stamp" of Antichrist.
Ozzie
12-15-2007, 06:37 AM
Not quite, tovarich, but a quaint take on the actual story:D
Sinterklass, Santa Claus, St Nicholas (Nikolai) etc, is based on the actual historical personage, Nicholas of Myra. Myra was a town/province in Asia Minor around 300-400AD and the presiding bishop there was a man of rather questionable repute named Nicholas. He was appointed to the bishopric at the age of 30 and it was said he had bought his way with bribes and "favours" to the Roman Council of the Church...which consisted of the cardinals and the Pope of the time (basically like the modern Vatican Council).
Anyway, story goes, when he was older (in his 50's-60's) he used to go around the town handing out small tithes to the prostitutes and women of the town to prevent them from entering into licensious liaisons with the men of the town and sailors who used to put into the port. This is where the tradition of "Santa" handing out presents comes from. His clothes, the red and white robes, comes from the actual clothing that Nicholas wore as a bishop. Although there were some later stories woven into the origin of his robes....mostly to do with the pagan origins of much of Christmas.
Just as an aside, it was this same Nicholas, who presided with other bishops and priests at the Council of Nicea (where you get your Nicean Creed from), in 385AD. At the council he was on the side of the Roman Catholic orthodoxy, and during the council had struck down a venerable and old bishop of the church, Arius. Arius was an old man in his early 80's and when he was struck down, Nicholas boasted about it whilst laughing along with the rest of his supporters at the council. Arius was arguing on the side of a more inclusive church, with an ideology more closely aligned with Christ's original teachings and not the teachings which arose from St Paul's theology....which became the dominant theology of the Church (and still is, today).
If anyone is offended by what I've just written, I apologise in advance, but I also ask you to take a look at the historical facts. You'll see they're pretty much as they stand.
RussianBat
12-15-2007, 06:43 AM
My STORY IS TRUE! :) :) :) :) :)
Phoebe_4u
12-15-2007, 09:36 AM
A lot of countries have different takes on Saint Nicolas....
For some he's from Spain, for others he's from Turkey, for other from Schwarzwald, from heaven....
We celebrate him on the 6th others on the 19th
There are different stories behind his helper....
There is't a question about who is right and who is wrong... Lets just all celebrate this nice tradition...
Laurita
12-15-2007, 06:37 PM
Well about Saint Nicolas... here in Spain, we donīt celebrate too much... every time could be more, but I think is an US influence!;)
Anyway, we use to celebrate on January 6 ( Epiphany o Twelfth Night) " Los Reyes Magos" (it means something like "The (Three) Wise Men"!) the three kings that come from the Middle East with their camels to give some presents (myrrh, incense and gold) to Jesus (Godīs son) well it is in the Bible story.... and all of us learn on the school!!!:p
So every country have their own religious belief... so for this reason is different, although at the end all means the same!;) :)
Lau.
RussianBat
12-16-2007, 02:09 AM
6 January night - it is the Xmas Eve for Russians. (My Birthday too).
How do you celebrate in Spain, you are Catholic, why on 6 Jan?:) :) :) :) :)
L.A.87
12-16-2007, 06:45 AM
We dont celebrate 6 january night here in Spain.
Triga
12-16-2007, 01:08 PM
Santa Claus is actually (in American and English way) a copy from the dutch word Sint Nikolaas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus
The popular North American form Santa Claus is derived from the Dutch Sinterklaas[3], which in turn is a contracted form of Sint Nicolaas (Saint Nicholas). However, the Dutch Sinterklaas is depicted as being very different from Santa Claus in many ways. Santa Claus has a suit that comes in many colors depending on the country[citation needed]. The most common depiction (red with white cuffs, collar, and black leather belt) became the more popular image in the United States in the 19th century due to the significant influence of Thomas Nast.[4] In the mid-20th Century a series of Coca-Cola advertisements featuring a Santa Claus drawn rotund and jovial by artist Haddon Sundblom popularized Nast's depiction.[
Laurita
12-17-2007, 08:23 AM
No, the nigth od january 6, no, We celebrate the 5th night it means when Jesus was born...
So we give to our family,friends, whatever, presents, as on 24th night for Saint Nicolas...
Also you Lorena maybe you celebrate "El Olentzero", arenīt you?
"...Horra! Horra!
Gure Olentzero!
Pipa hortzetan duela
eserita dago
kapoiak ere baditu
arraultzatxuakin
bihar meriendatzeko
botila ardoakin..." :D
Lau.
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